Re: Way Way Way off topic...

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First off..  the dual 90 is not my main machine.  It was actualy jsut a
toy because I got the motherboard for free and picked up a pair of P90's
for $25. It is a nonstandard board which I don't even have the case for.
It is sitting in my closet screwed to a piece of wood.  I had been
unimpressed by NT on dual processors but since it was so cheap I decided
to try dual processors again...  this time on linux...  I was so
impressed.  Even 2.0.xx worked pretty well...  2.1.xxx is even better...
Now I am seriously considering making SMP my main system.

Can somebody point me to sites with ppro's?  I would be interested in
checking out my options...

On Wed, 18 Nov 1998, Ken Hansen wrote:

> Let me see if I have this right - you have been fine on the 2xP90s
> for a while, but now it is confining, you want upgrade - so you'll
> pass-over the PPro family of processors because they can't be upgraded
> to 2x450 PII? You have big plans for that system!

Whats that law about outdating every 18 months?

> 
> While the PPro can not be upgraded to that high a clock rate, I
> still stand by my suggestion - esp. if you are comparing it to the
> PII systems that are SMP capable... A $100 MB and 2x$100 CPU vs.
> $179 for an Intel PII SMP board (W/ sound, SCSI & 10/100 Ethernet)
> and $159 for each PII 233 Mhz CPU (450 Mhz PII are $550 - Yow!),
> so, yes, for 66% more (PPro $300 vs. PII $500) you can get a system
> that can be upgraded...

Humm...  that puts it in a little different light...  Though why would I
ever want onboard sound and ethernet...  most of those are non-standard
(some ethernet is ok)...  I am going to take my dec ethernet card and
Sound Blaster anyhow...  I was kinda drolling over the 5 pci slots
available on some 2xPII systems...  I'v got 1 left in my 4 slot machine as
it is...

> 
> For me, by the time I outgrow 2xPPro 200 I'm sure there will something
> much more attractive that a 450 Mhz PII - remember, your 2xP90 system
> could be upgraded too, but you never did that either... 
The motherboard was a neat old developement board from NEC...  thrown out
by a developement company...  didn't really like >100's (the 90's are
actualy running at 100 right now...)


Why will a PII
> system be more attractive as an upgrade in a year or two?  Just a
> thought, and ANY of these machines are *plenty* of machine for almost
> any application... Good luck, I hope you enjoy whatever you wind up
> with...
> 
> Ken
> khansen@njcc.com
> 
> PS - My 2xP133 system was another deal, $79 MB, $50 CPUs - but that
> was last years system...
> 
> 
> At 11:37 AM 12/18/98 -0500, you wrote:
> >No...  I just can't upgrade the PPro easily...  Where a 2x233 PII could go
> >all the way to 2x450...
> >
> >On Tue, 17 Nov 1998, Ken Hansen wrote:
> >
> >> axp-list@duct.ml.org wrote:
> >> > 
> >> > I was looking for upgradeability with some kick right now...  with PPro
> >> > its a dead end... I have a 2x90 already...  its fun but not very
> >> > powerfull...  Symetric Multi Penguin for Me :-)
> >> 
> >> You don't think you'll see a jump in performance going from 2xP90 to
> >> 2xPPro180? The difference should be profound, and well worth the
> >> money...
> >> 
> >> You did mention that price was a concern, didn't you?
> >> 
> >> PPro is not a dead end, it is very popular and outside the CPU chip I do
> >> not think there is *that much* difference between a PPro and a PII, what
> >> I mean is that there is very little different from a software
> >> standpoint,
> >> IIRC.
> >> 
> >> Ken
> >> khansen@njcc.com
> >> 
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