Re: "Yarrow" on Alpha

[Mike Barnes <mike barnes sci monash edu au>]

On 11/11/2003, at 4:35 AM, Michal Jaegermann wrote:
> My best guess would be that you need some "bootstrapping" work here and
> not just tweaking specs.  I mean by that that first you have to compile
> from sources, not by a rebuilding srpms, a version of gcc3 which works
> with 7.2 libraries (a good question is if there are Alpha specific bugs
> there and patches for that) and then you can use that compiler to build
> glibc.  This may depend on a kernel so this may result in more work.

Exactly what I was thinking. I'm likely to try something like this next 
weekend, unless someone beats me to it.

> But if you left glibc for the very end then your recompilation effort 
> is
> somewhat to naught.  If you will replace glibc then you will find out
> that you are linking with wrong dynamic libraries and nothing works.
> One way out is to leave old glibc alone.  That way you will end up with
> sort of "pseudo-Yarrow" as various things there (NTPL for sure) depend
> on an updated glibc.

My overall idea (not sure if I mentioned it before) was to compile 
everything in sight to see what worked, then once I can get the basic 
glibc/gcc/kernel pieces in place, I'd recompile everything again under 
the new system. At that point, there might actually be something 
resembling a working system. :)

> Still 'yum' http://linux.duke.edu/projects/yum/
> has advantages, I believe, on a longer run even if it does not have
> a GUI front-end so far.  Not mentioning that detail that it comes
> with "Yarrow".  OTOH there is nothing which prevents the same 
> depository
> to provide both apt and yum support.

I'd like to move to yum since, as you say, it's part of the 
distribution now. I'm sticking with apt for the moment since I already 
use apt to manage all my i386 and Alpha systems on 7.x distributions - 
I had the tools lying around. I wasn't going to try using yum at least 
until I get the Yarrow version of RPM built. I forget why that was 
failing now, but I think it was something to do with the compiler 
version. The minimal notes I've made so far are on my desk at work, so 
I can't check right now.