Re: XML is coming

["T. V. Raman" <ramantv earthlink net>]

Actually I went to the W3 looking for resources for someone
to maintain Emacs/W3 a few months ago --the results were
less than encouraging.

I was first told "we cant do that because no one uses it" 
--later this was qualified to "we cant do that because no
one at the W3C uses it"
the final word I heard was that Daniel LaLibert would
perhaps look at Emacs/W3 as a part-time activity.
Barring the above caveat and the reiteration of Jason's
lament about lack of resources Emacs/W3 Emacspeak and Aural
CSS would provide an excellent experimentation platform.
>>>>> "Charles" == Charles McCathieNevile <charles w3 org> writes:

    Charles> Hmmm. I had a think. It seems that the pieces
    Charles> needed are: 1. an xml parser this is like an
    Charles> html parser, but it has a simple rule for when
    Charles> an element ends instead of having to apply the
    Charles> much less strict HTML algorithm. It needs to
    Charles> nderstand a coule of special things - how to
    Charles> read a "processing instruction", which is where
    Charles> it can find a Document Type Declaration, and
    Charles> where it can find a stylesheet.

    Charles> 2. A CSS rendering engine.

    Charles> As I understand it, the parser can pass al
    Charles> rsponsibility for rendering elements to the
    Charles> rendering engine - it merely has to identify
    Charles> the content of each element.

    Charles> (This would be a non-validating user agent - it
    Charles> would not test for validity, and I believe it
    Charles> is a valid or required response that any
    Charles> document which is not "well-formed" be
    Charles> automatically rejected.)

    Charles> It might be possible that w3 can be made to do
    Charles> this, and to apply audio style sheets to allow
    Charles> emacspeak to render it. I know nothing about
    Charles> the details of how the two interact, and
    Charles> whether they are sufficiently seperated to make
    Charles> this possible. I hope Raman can answer the
    Charles> question with respect to emacspeak, and I will
    Charles> talk to Daniel Laliberte tomorrow, since I
    Charles> believe he is reasonably familiar with e-lisp
    Charles> and w3.

    Charles> Never know, there might be some good news just
    Charles> around the corner...

    Charles> Charles McCN


    Charles> On Fri, 27 Aug 1999, Jason White wrote:

    Charles>   Unfortunately, there exists no software today
    Charles> that can be run in the Linux environment (or
    Charles> any other environment so far as I am aware)
    Charles> that can process XML, XHTML, MathML and other
    Charles> emerging file formats, to produce high-quality
    Charles> audio or braille output. The linux-braille
    Charles> project is attempting to address the braille
    Charles> side of this issue, albeit slowly due to lack
    Charles> of resources; but there is a real need for
    Charles> flexible, extensible, free (open-source)
    Charles> software, perhaps operating as an adjunct to
    Charles> existing XML tools or a web browser, that can
    Charles> realise the potential of the recently
    Charles> established markup and style languages. As we
    Charles> have discussed before, the main difficulty is
    Charles> lack of qualified and experienced developers
    Charles> who have significant spare time available to
    Charles> undertake such projects, or whose work can be
    Charles> funded adequately.
  
  
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