Re: speakup at university

[Jacob Schmude <jacobs ncinter net>]

	I really don't think that'd be the best way to go. You're
restricted to emacs and I don't care what the emacspeak author says,
there's some things you just can't do inside emacs. There's also some
things that can't be done well. Try writing a simple C program, saving it,
then compile it. You'll notice they didn't seem to think of a compile
option in C/C++ mode, so you need to go to the menus, find the
"compile" command, type the command for compilation in, then switch
buffers to see the error messages if any.
	It'd be easier just to use command-line mode, load the editor of
choice, exit, and compile and see the errors right on the cmd line.
	I'd go for the custom boot disk. This way, the university wouldn't
need to compile their kernels again, and you could still have the
speech-enabled kernel. Find out what they have/have not included, and make
a boot disk for that kernel. You'll also need the root device, then you
just access their system as if nothing had changed.

On Sat, 3 Jun 2000, Ron Marriage wrote:

> In this case your probable best bet is to
> drop speakup and use emacspeak.  You
> won't need any special permissions from
> the university network department, and
> they won't inconvenience others with odd
> key combinations that aren't standard.
> 
> In most university systems you will have
> your own account and user directory.  Set
> up emacspeak here and in any of your
> classes you will be able to use it.
> 
> You will be able to get emacspeak versions
> to work not only on your linux machines, but
> most other unix varieties, but also for the
> windows environment. (never used it myself
> but assume it works the same).
> 
> If at sometime you do develope a screen
> reader or audio environment of your own
> that works well, be sure to let everyone know
> about it.  While this is a great goal, I have to
> say that I taught computer science and
> programming, and never wrote one that
> compares to emacspeak.  Of course, I'm more
> inclined to write a warehouse inventory
> program than an OS, of course then you have
> to factor in that I'm pretty lazy too. <LOL>
> 
> Ron
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Saqib Shaikh <saqib saqib-shaikh freeserve co uk>
> To: <speakup braille uwo ca>; <blinux-newbie egroups com>;
> <blinux-list redhat com>
> Cc: <kirk braille uwo ca>
> Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2000 1:52 PM
> Subject: speakup at university
> 
> 
> > hi all,
> > sorry for the cross posting, but i need as good as answer
> as there
> > is, as this is a pretty important decision.  i am
> currently using
> > speakup with zipslack, and find it good, since the
> zipspeak
> > distribution is the only one where you don't need to
> compile source
> > for the speech program because mr campbell has already
> done
> > that. anyway, i am really looking at the long term and in
> october i
> > will be going to university to read computer science and
> will be
> > required to use many of the laboratory computers, many
> running
> > linux. ok, the university aren't going to be kene on my
> patching
> > their kernel so that when my synth isn't connected the
> computer
> > will crash! even if it doesn't crash speakup may cause
> trouble with
> > other user's as they would still have to take heed of the
> speakup
> > hotkeys. is there a solution to this problem? wel, the
> first i guessis
> > to ask whether it wuld be possible to have my own boot
> disk, then
> > log onto the university network with speech? secondly,
> i'll probably
> > end up writing my own non kernel based screen reader!
> please,
> > anyone give advice since i believe many of you gang must
> be at uni
> > yourselves since many email addresses imply this.
> > thanks, regards, saqib shaikh
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Jacob Schmude
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