Re: linux, backing up, jazz drives and others question

["Brent Harding" <bharding greenbaynet com>]

Do they have external eide models? To my knowledge I don't think I have a scsi adapter in my computer. How would I use a scsi orb with a laptop if I did get one?


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On 6/27/00 at 9:58 AM Janina Sajka wrote:

>Luke:
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>You are correct that one should check out the data transfer rate in
>devices like the Orb. I remember doing this before getting mine. It
>convinced me to wait for the external scsi Orb to come to market because
>it had a significantly faster throughput than the usb model. I already
>knew I wanted an external unit because I wanted the portability.
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>On Tue, 27 Jun 2000, Luke Davis wrote:
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>> Well: perhaps you have two IDE channels, in which case you want to put
>> both the CDROM drive and the new drive on the secondary, and leave the
>> first channel to harddrive(s) only.
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>> Reall, you want this to be SCSI, as it will be quite a bit faster, and it
>> won't slow the cIDE channels down for other devices, such as the
>> harddrive, as the CDROM is doing.
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>> On Mon, 26 Jun 2000, Brent Harding wrote:
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>> > 		Cool. The eide  ones are easiest to set up, right? I know usb is out of it if I'm going to use linux. What special features does this drive have? It still seems a not so bad for $40 for two gigs, I only have a 6 gig hard drive to back up. Do you have to use special drivers in linux, or does it just work on it's own? I don't know what kind of connectors remain to be used in my hard drive, I have an eide hard drive, and cd-rom that's actually atapi. Linux didn't tell me about empty slots though. Amazingly it told me the brand of hard drive I got, how cool, I never really knew that info before.
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>> > On 6/26/00 at 9:40 PM Janina Sajka wrote:
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>> > >The news is even better. I believe you have your choice of scsi, eide, or
>> > >usb models, and they all use cartridges that can store up to about 2
>> > >Gb. Not bad, imho.
>> > >
>> > >Having said all this to you today, I'm sad to report that something has
>> > >gone awry with mine. Not the Orb or the media, something in my setup. It
>> > >was working the other day, now it's not. But I can access in Winblows
>> > ><groan>
>> > >
>> > >					Janina
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >On Mon, 26 Jun 2000, Brent Harding wrote:
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>> > >> 	Oh, how much does the orb drive store? I use debian 2.2, do you just recompile the kernel with scsi support in, and it works?
>> > >>
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>> > >> On 6/26/00 at 4:30 PM Janina Sajka wrote:
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>> > >> >Hi:
>> > >> >
>> > >> >Media for Jazz drives was around $100 for the 2 gig units, last I
>> > >> >looked. Media for the Orb is around $40, which is part of it's attraction.
>> > >> >
>> > >> >I have found the configuration pretty straight forward--but that's because
>> > >> >I had some help doing it. If memory serves, the RedHat distro can discover
>> > >> >and configure pretty much on its own. Of course, your mileage may vary,
>> > >> >but in no way are these more cumbersome than tape drives. No way on that
>> > >> >score.
>> > >> >
>> > >> >
>> > >> >On Mon, 26 Jun 2000, Brent Harding wrote:
>> > >> >
>> > >> >> 	Wow, cool. How expensive are the disks for these drives? I thought it'd be easier than a tape drive because tape involves a lot of work to set up before things work.
>> > >> >> I thought these were easy. Don't you have to enter all kinds of scsi id's and junk in to files? It's just hard to know what's compatible in linux, I heard not all adapters are.
>> > >> >>
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>> > >> >> On 6/26/00 at 1:55 PM Janina Sajka wrote:
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>> > >> >> >Brent, you're calling them "backup" drives, but that is simply not
>> > >> >> >correct. A "backup" is one kind of use you can put a Jazz or an Orb drive
>> > >> >> >to, but it is far more than that. For example, you can simply store files
>> > >> >> >on them.
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> >How easy is to use them?
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> >Very easy. They're just another drive designation.
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> >On Sun, 25 Jun 2000, brent harding wrote:
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>> > >> >> >> 			How easy is it to use debian 2.2 potato with various backup drives,
>> > >> >> >> jazz, tape, etc? The jazz drive howto looks quite easy to set up, does it
>> > >> >> >> work fairly well? How expensive are the cartridges for it? I rarely heard
>> > >> >> >> of what it was until I looked for a howto and passed it on the way. Does it
>> > >> >> >> get autodetected when you have it hooked to a scsi card? If so, which is
>> > >> >> >> the best controller to use under linux. I'm not real technically inclined
>> > >> >> >> to know what's compatible with which driver, but I'd like to be able to
>> > >> >> >> make a backup of my system. CD is out of the question because my cd-burner
>> > >> >> >> is usb, which isn't yet supported. Finally, will the jazz drive work in
>> > >> >> >> linux with a laptop?
>> > >> >> >> That ftape thing seemed kind of misleading. I thought the adaptec scsi
>> > >> >> >> cards work in linux, or not all of them?
>> > >> >> >> Thanks.
>> > >> >> >>
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