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Re: [dm-devel] Re: [RFC][PATCH 0/4] dm-log: support multi-log devices



Michał Mirosław wrote:
> 2008/12/1 Takahiro Yasui <tyasui redhat com>:
>> Phillip Susi wrote:
> [...]
>>> Right... and when recording a log on every disk in the mirror, each copy
>>> of the log may not contain exactly the same information at any given
>>> time.  If you write to one disk in the mirror first, then you need to
>>> mark the region as dirty on that disk first, so that if the system
>>> crashes before you can copy the data to the other mirror, you can see
>>> that the first disk is more up to date than the second disk.
>>>
>>> In other words, knowing that a region is or is not synchronized across
>>> each disk is not enough; if they are out of sync you need to figure out
>>> which disk has the most current information so it can be replicated to
>>> the others, don't you?
>>>
>>> Or do you just always write to the first disk first, and assume it has
>>> the most recent data if the region was marked as dirty in ANY of the logs?
>> log disks are updated in parallel and we do not know which disk has the
>> latest and correct data if the system crashes during write operations
>> on log devices. But there is no problem about it.
>>
>> There are two cases we need to think about.
>>
>> 1) Some log devices contain "clean", but mirror devices are not synchronized
>>
>> This case is problematic, but never happens, because data is written on
>> mirror devices after marking log devices "dirty", and make it "clean"
>> after write I/Os on mirror devices completed and mirrors get synchronized.
>>
>> 2) Some log devices contain "dirty", but mirror devices are synchronized
>>
>> This case may happen but is not problematic. Just data replication of
>> the region among mirror devices will be done when the mirror is resumed.
>> This case would also happen on the system with the current single log if
>> the system crashes after marking a log device "dirty" and before marking
>> it back to "clean".
> 
> What happens if some log devices contain "dirty" and not all mirrors were written
> yet before a crash? How do you know which mirror has the most recent data?
> Are the writes to mirrors ordered somehow?

What happens if it is a raw device rather than dm-mirror? The I/O has
not completed yet and the request has not returned to the upper layer.
If system crashed at this point, no one knows which data, new or old,
is on the device, and application such as database should be responsible
for the transaction if necessary.

In the situation on dm-mirror you asked, we do not know which mirror
has the latest data, but I think that it is not a problem.

Thanks,
---
Takahiro Yasui
Hitachi Computer Products (America) Inc.


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