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Log from lasts weeks (20071107) EPEL SIG Meeting



(sorry, a bit late -- I was busy at work and I'm on vacation since
Friday...)

Reminder: Next meeting Wednesday next week, 20071121 at *18:00* UTC (so
the effective time after all that DST switching trouble stays the same
as during the meetings in summers)

00:10:37            --- | mmcgrath has changed the topic to: EPEL
Meeting - Who's here?
00:11:04              * | nirik is here
00:11:23            --- | mmcgrath has changed the topic to: EPEL Sig
meeting -- Meeting rules at
http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/Schedule/MeetingGuidelines --
Init process
00:11:26 <    mmcgrath> | There we go :)
00:11:41            <-- | couf has quit ("leaving")
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00:12:13              * | mmcgrath likes to remind everyone that the
schedule for todays meeting as well as a list of all open tasks can be
found on http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/EPEL/Schedule
00:12:53            --> | jeremy (Jeremy Katz)  has joined #fedora-meeting
00:13:07 <    mmcgrath> | nirik: is it just you and me?
00:13:14 <       nirik> | looking that way.
00:13:41 <    mmcgrath> | I'd say this will be pretty quick then.
00:13:55            --- | mmcgrath has changed the topic to: EPEL SIG
Meeting | http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/EPEL/Tasks/NextTestingStableMove
did the last move went well? -- knurd
00:14:11 <       nirik> | yeah...
00:14:18 <       nirik> | I think the last move went pretty well...
00:14:24 <       nirik> | do we want to schedule them for specific times?
00:14:33              * | rdieter sits in the back, with his popcorn.
00:14:36 <       nirik> | or ask again on the list about what method we
should use?
00:14:45 <    mmcgrath> | rdieter: :)
00:15:31 <    mmcgrath> | nirik: I'd schedule a time then see if the
list wants us to change it.  It could be a while before the next move.
00:15:51 <    mmcgrath> | although, since its just you and me, perhaps
the list would be better, or just wait till the next meeting to talk
about it.
00:16:01 <       nirik> | yeah, I would be happy with once a month or
something, then the question is how long something needs to be in testing.
00:16:07 <       nirik> | sure.
00:16:41 <    mmcgrath> | The next topic is related
00:16:42            --- | mmcgrath has changed the topic to: EPEL SIG
Meeting | http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/EPEL/Tasks/NextTestingStableMove
when to do the move in EL4? -- knurd
00:17:05 <    mmcgrath> | I don't use EL4 that much anymore so I'm not
sure what would be best for it.
00:17:13 <       nirik> | yeah, I would think soon...
00:18:12 <    mmcgrath> | <nod>
00:18:16 <       nirik> | I can try and work on it I guess...
00:18:29 <       nirik> | plan on perhaps next monday?
00:18:39 <       nirik> | let the f8 release suck up all the bw, etc.
00:18:46 <    mmcgrath> | Sure, just take a look to see what would be
involved.
00:18:55 <    mmcgrath> | I think next monday sounds good to me.
00:19:25 <    mmcgrath> | nirik: anything else on that?
00:19:38 <       nirik> | ok. I think knurd just mirrored out testing,
copied everything to stable and did some repoclosures. I should be able
to do that here.
00:19:57 <    mmcgrath> | solid
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00:20:09            --- | mmcgrath has changed the topic to: EPEL SIG
Meeting | http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/EPEL/Tasks/RhelMetaData -- stahnma
00:20:25 <    mmcgrath> | Should probably wait for stahnma to be around :)
00:20:54 <       nirik> | yep.
00:21:09            --- | mmcgrath has changed the topic to: EPEL SIG
Meeting | http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/EPEL/Tasks/Misc -- permission to
use spec files in other projects
00:21:22 <    mmcgrath> | I had thought this one was done, but I could
be wrong.
00:21:39 <       nirik> | yeah, me too.
00:21:48 <       nirik> | FYI, I have been poking at dag's clamav spec.
00:21:57 <       nirik> | Hopefully later this week I can get one that
meets guidelines.
00:21:57              * | mmcgrath knows thats much anticipated.
00:22:01 <    mmcgrath> | excellent.
00:22:09 <       nirik> | however, should I submit a review on it you
think? or ?
00:22:10 <    mmcgrath> | according to the page, that ones blocking on
the board right now.
00:22:35 <    mmcgrath> | if you're confident in it, I think you
wouldn't be breaking any rules by not doing a review, but I think the
safe thing would be a review.
00:22:39 <       nirik> | or ask packaging if I can even do what I want?
or ?
00:22:51 <       nirik> | yeah, I would like to see it reviewed...
00:23:24 <    mmcgrath> | <nod> I'd say have at it then.
00:23:36            --- | mmcgrath has changed the topic to: EPEL SIG
Meeting | http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/EPEL/Tasks/Misc -- why don't the
broken dep reports go to the list?
00:23:56 <    mmcgrath> | I guess that ones pointed at me.
00:24:09 <       nirik> | yep. ;)
00:24:13 <    mmcgrath> | A) The script we use, for some reason, can
take a long time to run and B) no one's done the work.
00:24:29 <       nirik> | are there many broken deps right now? I
haven't looked...
00:24:43              * | mmcgrath makes note -
http://git.fedoraproject.org/?p=hosted/fedora-infrastructure.git;a=tree;f=scripts/spam-o-epel;h=10dd4bc454f689758972bde45acf5b636fce5714;hb=HEAD
00:24:50 <    mmcgrath> | not "many" but broken deps do exist right now.
00:25:04 <    mmcgrath> | If anyone is interested in getting involved.
Fixing up that script is certainly one way to do it.
00:25:16 <       nirik> | might post to the list on it?
00:25:28 <    mmcgrath> | <nod> I'll do that now.
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#fedora-meeting
00:26:01 <       nirik> | I suppose I could try and look at it... it's
just like the extras one?
00:26:24 <    mmcgrath> | nirik: I think it used to be, I'm not sure
about now.  The script I got checked against koji so I had to make it
not do that.
00:26:40 <       nirik> | yeah, that won't work too well...
00:26:51              * | nirik wishes we had koji and bodhi. Oh well,
someday.
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00:27:06 <    mmcgrath> | nirik: for me its mostly been an -ENOTIME and
it seems to take forever to run and I've not made progress on fixing that.
00:27:11 <    mmcgrath> | anywho :) moving on
00:27:12            --- | mmcgrath has changed the topic to: EPEL SIG
Meeting | http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/EPEL/Tasks/Misc -- how to get
all the missing rpmfusion and bugzilla deps into EPEL and the wishlist
empty as well?
00:27:22 <       nirik> | yeah, I hear you on time... ;)
00:27:32 <    mmcgrath> | I say, Add them to the wish list and get to
contacting each packager one by one until everything is in.
00:27:46 <    mmcgrath> | Thats going to be one hefty job getting
bugzilla in there.
00:27:55 <       nirik> | yeah, tons of deps.
00:28:12 <       nirik> | I think contacting maintainers is the best
way... and if they don't answer branching, etc.
00:28:33 <    mmcgrath> | yep, nothing special about it from the other
packages.  Its just big and... well needy.
00:28:42 <       nirik> | I could also offer to mass branch things if
people have long lists but don't want to file lots of cvs bug requests.
00:29:00 <    mmcgrath> | <nod>  If we get approval on all of them
around the same time.
00:29:08 <    mmcgrath> | Alrighty, open floor!
00:29:10            --- | mmcgrath has changed the topic to: EPEL SIG
Meeting | Free discussion around EPEL
00:29:15 <    mmcgrath> | nirik: you have anything you want to talk about?
00:29:19 <       nirik> | yeah, I think some maintainers might not like
the overhead of requesting 20 packages to be branched...
00:29:49 <       nirik> | not that I can think of off hand... oh... when
5.1 is out we should add a 5.1 dir/link and move all 5.0 to it, right?
00:30:44 <    mmcgrath> | I actually don't remember on that front.
IIRC, we aren't going to maintain a 5.0 tree after that point, so I
guess its just a link from 5.1 to 5.0
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00:32:04 <       nirik> | yeah, I think there was talk of waiting a
while after release to let people upgrade.
00:32:16 <       nirik> | I think we should wait until centos has 5.1 at
least, but after that I don't care.
00:32:27 <    mmcgrath> | sounds good to me.
00:32:32 <    mmcgrath> | Ok, have anything else?
00:32:34              * | mmcgrath does not
00:33:11              * | nirik does not either.
00:33:51              * | mmcgrath will close the meeting in 30
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00:34:43 <    mmcgrath> | alright
00:34:47            --- | mmcgrath has changed the topic to: Meeting Closed
00:34:49 <    mmcgrath> | nirik: thanks :)
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