puppet 0.24.2
Michael Stahnke
mastahnke at gmail.com
Wed Mar 19 23:15:17 UTC 2008
On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 5:11 PM, Jeroen van Meeuwen <kanarip at kanarip.com> wrote:
> Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> > Jeroen van Meeuwen wrote:
> >
> >> I'm sure you all appreciate people are running *enterprise linux* for
> >> a reason, and do not want to bother with package foo like this like if
> >> it were Fedora.
> >
> > Breaking user configuration shouldn't be done in Fedora updates either.
> >
>
> This isn't about Fedora. This doesn't concern Fedora.
>
> I just wish I could count on the Enterprise Linux branch - with or
> without EPEL and/or subscriptions and/or a toll-free number - to be more
> stable, so that there's actually a good (and valid!) reason to use it.
>
>
> --
> Kind regards,
>
> Jeroen van Meeuwen
> -kanarip
>
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Do you test every update before you automatically apply it to
production systems? I know my enterprise sure does. While normally
updates are harmless, I have seen RHEL updates (the ones we pay for)
that have erased /var/named, edited /etc/syslog.conf and probably a
lot more stuff that I can't recall off the top of my head. If you
suicide update, I don't think it's very fair to get mad at the
volunteers trying to provide you software. Yes, it was a bug in
puppet. I understand this. They shipped it, we packaged it.
Unfortunately, right now due to people/resource constraints in EPEL,
we push RHEL4/5 and Fedora updates on a separate schedule. Fedora
uses a completely different build/update system than EPEL currently
can. There is a lot of effort underway to to move our build system
to the same as Fedora's, but still we will have a few timing issues
between Fedora and EPEL4 and EPEL5. It is less than ideal but we are
working to make it better.
stahnma
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