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Re: RFC: EOL of mediawiki from EL-4, EL-5, EL-6



On Tue, 30 Nov 2010 14:49:42 -0800
Ray Van Dolson <rayvd bludgeon org> wrote:

> On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 03:33:43PM -0700, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
> > On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 14:27, Ray Van Dolson <rayvd bludgeon org>
> > wrote:
> > > On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 01:53:32PM -0700, Stephen John Smoogen
> > > wrote:
> > >> I plan to EOL mediawiki for the EPEL releases for EL-4,5,6 due to
> > >> packaging newer ones using mediawiki114,mediawiki115,
> > >> mediawiki116.
> > >>
> > >> There are several ways I can do this:
> > >>
> > >> 1) change mediawiki114 to replace mediawiki. Pros would allow
> > >> people to keep a package on their system. COns most likely will
> > >> break due to linking and changes in package.
> > >>
> > >> 2) put out a final mediawiki package with a "Please dont use." in
> > >> README and %description.
> > >>
> > >> 3) just remove from system.
> > >>
> > >> I need input and help on getting this done.
> > >>
> > >> Thankyou.
> > >
> > > I like option #1.  Are you tracking this in a bugzilla somewhere?
> > >  I would be happy to "help" insofar as testing this new package
> > > (the upgrade side-effects mainly).
> > 
> > I have tried a couple of times to do #1. However they all ended up
> > being very very delicate in that they only worked with a default
> > install. As soon as I tried to make it work in a non-default way I
> > ended up with broken links and a lot of hand fixing that would be
> > needed either way.
> > 
> > At this point my best step is to parallel install mediwiki114 and
> > mediawiki. Go through your config files and symbolic links and point
> > to mediawiki114. Test. Repeat.
> 
> Ah.  In light of your experiences then, it sounds like the parallel
> install is the way to go -- and then maybe down the road retire the
> parent mediawiki package after people have had a chance to adopt
> mediawiki114 and update their configurations.
> 
> > 
> > The second issue is that they are not 1:1 matches. I decided not to
> > implement Axil's multihome patch because upstream had no interest in
> > it and they pointed out it needed a more work for it to work well
> > (for their definition of well). I am a) not a PHP developer and b)
> > full up on other jobs so decided to take it out and implement a
> > minimal patch set to deal with upstreams packaging style.
> 
> All makes sense to me.
> 
> Do you have a bz# where you're tracking this so I could join to
> collaborate on testing?  Alternately, I'll just keep an eye out for
> mediawiki114 packages to show up in epel-testing.

Yeah, same here... so leave the existing mediawiki for now, push the
new ones. Wait a while, and perhaps down the road we can nuke/replace
the old one. 

kevin

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