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Fedora Weekly News 196
- From: Pascal Calarco <pcalarco nd edu>
- To: fedora-announce-list redhat com, fedora-news-list <fedora-news-list redhat com>
- Cc: distro distrowatch com, editor lxer com, news phoronix com
- Subject: Fedora Weekly News 196
- Date: Mon, 05 Oct 2009 10:40:34 -0400
o 1.1 Announcements
+ 1.1.1 FEDORA ANNOUNCE LIST
# 18.104.22.168 Reminder: Fedora Board IRC meeting 1600
+ 1.1.2 FEDORA DEVELOPMENT ANNOUNCEMENTS
# 22.214.171.124 Final Review of Incomplete Fedora 12
# 126.96.36.199 Buyer Beware: A Major Change in NFS is
about to happen
# 188.8.131.52 Fedora 12 Freeze at 0600~ 2009-09-30 UTC
# 184.108.40.206 Re: CVS Outage Notification -
2009-09-29 04:25 UTC
+ 1.1.3 FEDORA EVENTS
# 220.127.116.11 Upcoming Events
# 18.104.22.168 Past Events
o 1.2 Planet Fedora
+ 1.2.1 General
o 1.3 QualityAssurance
+ 1.3.1 Test Days
+ 1.3.2 Weekly meetings
+ 1.3.3 Blocker bug criteria
+ 1.3.4 Beta test compose Delta ISOs
+ 1.3.5 Xfce Test Day recap
+ 1.3.6 Wiki Test Results name space
+ 1.3.7 Proposed removal of Anaconda from Test Day CDs
+ 1.3.8 Installation testing results
o 1.4 Artwork
+ 1.4.1 Beta Artwork
+ 1.4.2 Wallpapers Extras
+ 1.4.3 A New Notification Theme
o 1.5 Security Advisories
+ 1.5.1 Fedora 11 Security Advisories
+ 1.5.2 Fedora 10 Security Advisories
o 1.6 Virtualization
+ 1.6.1 Fedora Virtualization List
# 22.214.171.124 Fedora virt status
# 126.96.36.199 New Tools virt-rescue and virt-edit
+ 1.6.2 Fedora Xen List
# 188.8.131.52 xen/master: pvops git trees rearranged
o 1.7 KDE
+ 1.7.1 Fedora 12 KDE Spin Not KDE3-less after all
+ 1.7.2 KDE-SIG steering committee formed
+ 1.7.3 Amarok 2.2 released
Fedora Weekly News Issue 196
Welcome to Fedora Weekly News Issue 196 for the week ending October
4, 2009. What follows are some highlights from this issue.
Starting off with announcements, which includes general, development and
event announcements, notice that minutes from last week's Fedora Board
open meeting are now available, an update on Fedora 12 milestones, and
an upcoming change in NFS. From the Fedora Planet, news and views from
Fedora contributors. In Quality Assurance news, review of the latest
Test Day on Anaconda's storage system, and detail from the team's weekly
meetings, and several other activities. In Design news, details of the
Art Team's work for the F12 beta release, an update on additional
wallpapers, and discussion of a new notification theme on the list. The
Security Advisory beat is back this week, with updates for the past few
weeks for Fedora 10 and 11. The Virtualization list offers goodness on
Fedora virtualization developments including new virt-rescue and
virt-edit tools, and reorganization of the Xen git tree for the dom0
kernel. Our issue wraps up with news from the KDE SIG, including details
on the expected feature set for Fedora 12 KDE spin and a new version of
Amarok, "Sunjammer. We hope you enjoy this week's FWN!
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FWN Editorial Team: Pascal Calarco, Adam Williamson
-- Announcements --
In this section, we cover announcements from the Fedora Project,
including general announcements, development announcements and
Contributing Writer: Rashadul Islam
--- FEDORA ANNOUNCE LIST ---
---- Reminder: Fedora Board IRC meeting 1600 UTC 2009-10-01 ----
Paul W. Frields announced,"The Board is holding its monthly public
meeting on Thursday, October 1, 2009, at 1600 UTC on IRC Freenode.."
A copy of the meeting minutes is also now available
--- FEDORA DEVELOPMENT ANNOUNCEMENTS ---
---- Final Review of Incomplete Fedora 12 Features ----
John Poelstra announced,
"With the passing of Beta Freeze we are now at the point in our release
process where we expect all features to be at 100% completion. After
requesting status updates, including direct email to the feature owners,
the following feature pages do not have a current status.
   
In accordance with our recorded policy of requiring that all features be
at 100% at Beta Freeze, I am proposing these features for your review to
determine what their disposition should be. "
---- Buyer Beware: A Major Change in NFS is about to happen ----
Steve Dickson announced on the fedora-devel-list an upcoming change to
NFS in Fedora,
As part of the NFSv4 Default  feature, I am one commit away from
changing the default protocol version NFS will be using (or at least
trying to use).
What does this means to you? Hopefully nothing! In theory this should be
a very seamless transition but with all new technology there will be
(and are) some rough spots.
Why are we making the change? See the NFSv4Default section on the wiki
(noted above) for details, but in a nutshell: 1) better performance and
2) firewall friendly. Finally it enables us to use upcoming minor
releases of the the protocol: NFS version 4.1 and pNFS.
FYI, V4 was introduced in Fedora Core 2 so it has been around for a
while. I personally have been using it for my home directory for a few
years now. For more detail see
That's the good news... Here is the bad....
Because the mount command will try NFS v4 first, if mounting to older
Linux servers will start failing. This is due to a defect in the Linux
server exporting code, which is fixed in F12, *but* there are a number
of workarounds that Steve suggested in the message.
---- Fedora 12 Freeze at 0600~ 2009-09-30 UTC ----
Jesse Keating briefly announced, "Just a reminder that the Fedora 12
freeze will be happening tonight at 0600 2009-09-30 UTC, just prior to
the rawhide compose tonight. The rawhide for 20090930 will be built from
frozen content. You do not need to send tag requests until after that."
Re: CVS Outage Notification - 2009-09-29 04:25 UTC
"It was pointed out to me that many of the packages starting with "a"
were not properly branched. I've restarted the branch run for the "a"
packages, however this time email will go out for the branch events, and
this won't incur another outage. The branching of "a" packages should be
done in 10 or 15 minutes. ", replied Jesse Keating.
--- FEDORA EVENTS ---
Mark your agenda with the following events. Please, consider attending
or volunteering at an event near you!
* North America (NA)
* Central & South America (LATAM) 
* Europe, Middle East, and Africa (EMEA)
* India, Asia, Australia (India/APJ)
---- Past Events ----
Archive of Past Fedora Events
-- Planet Fedora --
In this section, we cover the highlights of Planet Fedora - an
aggregation of blogs from Fedora contributors worldwide.
Contributing Writer: Adam Batkin
--- General ---
Josh Bressers noted that Coverity has scanned a number of Open Source
projects for vulnerabilities for a third year running, and they are
claiming "that there is a 16 percent reduction is flaws found". Josh
noted that it is too early to draw conclusions on what this actually
means for OSS.
Michael Tiemann spoke "at Open World Forum in Paris on the subject of
open source and the digital (economic) recovery".
James Morris posted a roundup from the SELinux Developers Summit
(which immediately preceded LinuxCon and the Linux Plumbers Conference)
in Portland, Oregon. Mmm, donuts. Daniel Walsh presented on "how
sandbox -X works" at the conference. Daniel also mentioned that
Fedora 12 will include a command-line interface to polgengui (which "is
a template based policy framework, that ask the user a few questions,
and then generate initial policy files to allow the policy writer to get
Richard W.M. Jones continued, adding tools that can introspect
virtual machines from a host system, this time a graphical df (virt-df),
virt-uname, virt-update and virt-ping.
Rahul Sundaram talked about the problems, dangers, and potential
preventions for dependency breakage (you know, when you run "yum update"
and it tells you that it can't continue because 1 out of the 146
packages that need to be updated doesn't have all of its dependencies
According to Matt Domsch, MirrorManager now has the ability to
automatically select a local Fedora mirror by netblock, ASN and a number
of other factors.
Mel Chua is working on a scholarship/fellowship program for middle to
high school students and wants your input.
Separately, Mel also asked "How can we make it easier for people to
Konstantin Ryabitsev scripted NetworkManager and Postfix to
automatically select a different relay SMTP server, depending on what
network the system has connected to.
Peter Hutterer announced that "MPX has been released as part of XI2
in the new X Server 1.7". I suppose this would be the first step in
letting desktop Linux act like the iPhone UI.
Greg DeKoenigsberg says: "If you live in the United States, go find
your two senators and tell them that you support the Open College
Textbook Act of 2009."
Tom Callaway was interviewed about "some of the intricacies of
licensing and ensuring that a software package included in Fedora and
Red Hat is actually verified to be open source." (Video)
-- Quality Assurance --
In this section, we cover the activities of the QA team.
Contributing Writer: Adam Williamson
--- Test Days ---
Last week's Test Day was on the installer's (Anaconda) storage
system. Unfortunately not a huge number of testers were present for this
test day, but those who did come managed to test a range of scenarios
and file several important bug reports. Thanks to all testers.
Next week's Test Day on 2009-10-08 will be specifically on the use of
software RAID arrays with Anaconda. As always, the Test Day will run all
day in the #fedora-test-day IRC channel. This is a nice tightly focused
topic with clear test cases, and an important feature for many users, so
please come out to the Test Day and help us ensure softward RAID is
tested on a wide range of storage hardware and configurations.
No Fit and Finish track Test Day is planned for next week.
If you would like to propose a main track Test Day for the Fedora 12
cycle, please contact the QA team via email or IRC, or file a ticket in
--- Weekly meetings ---
The QA group weekly meeting was held on 2009-09-28. The full log is
available. Adam Williamson noted that follow-up on the development
issues discussed the previous week was impossible with Jesse Keating and
David Pravec absent, so left the topic for the following week.
Will Woods reported on the progress of the AutoQA project. The major
achievement was a working prototype of the planned israwhidebroken.com
site, of which Will provided a screenshot. The source code for the
web application which controls the page is also available. The app
allows results for manual-only tests to be provided by users
authenticated via FAS. Will is planning to extend the app to provide
links to logs for the automated tests, and the ability to add bug report
links for failed tests. Two new tests  had been added to cover the
later stages of Anaconda installation (beyond disk partitioning).
Adam Williamson summarized upcoming events, and James Laska pointed out
the relevant calendar page. The beta freeze and beta candidate build
process was imminent, and the fourth beta blocker review meeting was due
Friday 2009-10-02. Denise Dumas pointed out that some important bugs
required testing to confirm prospective fixes, and Adam pointed to the
beta blocker bug list as a reference for these.
James Laska started a discussion regarding plans for the then-upcoming
Anaconda storage filtering Test Day. Denise Dumas was in favour of
cancelling it as the storage filtering changes had been delayed until
Fedora 13. James and Adam Williamson suggested converting it into a more
general test day on Anaconda storage issues, and this path was agreed
upon. James and Denise agreed to work to ensure Anaconda would be in a
testable state for the Test Day.
The Bugzappers group weekly meeting was held on 2009-09-29. The full
log is available. Edward Kirk reported that he had started work on
moving action items from previous meetings into Trac, as had been
discussed the previous week, and would continue to work on it. Adam
Williamson encouraged him to ask for help if he felt it was too much
work to complete on his own.
Edward Kirk also provided a draft of the meeting organization SOP
that he had begun work on. The group felt it was a good start. Edward
wondered where the page should end up, and Adam Williamson suggested it
should be a page of its own, linked from the main Meetings page, as
other SOP pages are. Edward promised to work on finalizing the page for
the next meeting.
Edward Kirk said that he had emailed Brennan Ashton for an update on the
triage metrics project, but had not received a reply. He said he was
working on a plan to move the project forward given Brennan's erratic
Edward Kirk asked if it was yet time to implement the previously
discussed change to triage policy, which was intended to begin when
Fedora 13 became active. Adam Williamson noted that branching had
occurred on the development side, but Rawhide was still tracking Fedora
12 rather than Fedora 13, and the policy change should take effect when
Rawhide began tracking Fedora 13.
Edward Kirk reminded the group that housekeeping tasks for the
Fedora 13 release would be due soon. He and John Poelstra already had
planned to divide the tasks up between themselves.
Sergey Rudchenko asked about what to do with Fedora 10 bugs as the end
of support for Fedora 10 approached. Edward Kirk and Adam Williamson
suggested that he ask the reporters of Fedora 10 bugs to see if they
could be reproduced on Fedora 11 or 12, and move the bugs to one of
those releases if they could.
The next QA weekly meeting will be held on 2009-10-05 at 1600 UTC in
#fedora-meeting, and the next Bugzappers weekly meeting on 2009-10-06 at
1500 UTC in #fedora-meeting.
--- Blocker bug criteria ---
Alexey Torkhov asked about the Wiki page on release criteria,
asking 'If I've found a bug that (I think) breaks MUST rule should I add
it to both F12Beta and F12Blocker trackers? And if it breaks SHOULD
rule, it should be added only to F12Blocker tracker?' Adam Williamson
replied that Alexey's interpretation was correct as far as the
criteria defined on that page went, but in practice bugs outside of
those criteria were still considered Beta and final release blockers, as
it was very hard comprehensively to codify all possible release criteria.
--- Beta test compose Delta ISOs ---
Andre Robatino reported that he had been unable to generate Delta
ISOs from the Alpha release to the Beta test compose due to some
--- Xfce Test Day recap ---
Kevin Fenzi provided a recap of the previous week's Xfce Test Day,
thanking participants and providing a list of bugs which had been filed.
--- Wiki Test Results name space ---
James Laska forwarded a ticket about the creation of a
Test_Results wiki namespace for the purpose of filing test results
separately from Test Day events (the name space will allow people who
have not signed the CLA to file results, as they currently are able to
on Test Day pages). Adam Williamson replied worrying about the
implied suggestion that the Test_Day namespace be removed and all Test
Day pages moved to the Test_Results namespace, which he thought would be
a bad change. Jóhann Guðmundsson agreed.
--- Proposed removal of Anaconda from Test Day CDs ---
Kamil Paral proposed the removal of Anaconda from the standard build
configuration for Test Day live images, on the basis that it is rarely
used as part of Test Day testing and dependency problems with the
anaconda package sometimes cause problems in the generation of the
images. Several replies felt the change was unnecessary, and the
availability of Anaconda on the Test Day CDs probably helped get more
people testing Rawhide installation. In the end it was agreed that
adding instructions for removing anaconda from the build to the Test Day
live CD creation instructions page would be sufficient to address the
--- Installation testing results ---
Liam Li provided a report on testing conducted by his team of Red Hat
testers on installation using the pre-Beta and Beta test compose images.
He summarized the bugs they had encountered, and asked for help in
completing the test cases listed on the test matrix which the team
had not been able to cover.
-- Artwork --
In this section, we cover the Fedora Design Team.
Contributing Writer: Nicu Buculei
--- Beta Artwork ---
At the suggestion of Paul Fields, the design team requested a small
delay to properly include the artwork for the Fedora 12 Beta release
"Rather than require anyone to pull a late night, why don't we simply
hit the rel-eng list for an up-front exception to the freeze?" and the
time was enough for Máirín Duffy to come with a polished wallpaper,
which was packaged with help from Martin Sourada and Michael
Beckwith. Máirín also advanced a set of splashes to complete
the release artwork.
After the release graphics were integrated, Máirín Duffy reminded
about the upcoming scheduled tasks "We still need to take care of a few
things though. Not only do we have to keep our eyes and ears open for
feedback on the beta artwork to improve in the final release, but we
also have other tasks to complete as well", consisting on website
banners, media art and posters. Nicu Buculei replied with some
pointers and invited fresh blood to the task "As we have a number of
new contributors asking for an opportunity to get their feet wet with
some contributions, I want to point this is a very good opportunity".
--- Wallpapers Extras ---
Samuele Storari reiterated the goal to provide a set of additional
wallpapers, from which the users have an option to chose and proposed a
copule of competing images "I've worked on 2 proposal for the Women
Extra Themes". Nicu Buculei praised them and pleaded for finding a
way to make all available "But no matter what is our final choice, you
put a lot of work and skill on them, I think it would be a real shame if
we don't manage to find a way to make all of them available somehow (an
additional package, a web gallery, something)" and Martin Sourada
completed with some instructions about packaging wallpapers but
opting to wait until a general decision "I'd wait with the packaging
after the final decision on extras is done, as your blue 4flowers design
is a hot candidate ;-)"
--- A New Notification Theme ---
After in the previous week Matthias Clasen announced a new and
controversial notification theme, Christoph Wickert, maintainer of
the Xfce Spin, protested about the look, "After I have seen them now
I can say I think they are horrible" and the practice "I think such
changes shouldn't been done as a solo action without previous notice."
John Poelstra showed his worries regarding a change late in the
release cycle " Why are we making this change now (right before the
final freeze) when Feature freeze was almost two months ago. Why can't
this wait for Fedora 13?" and Paul Fields pointed to inconsistency
with the rest of the desktop, making it a non-trivial change "It does
seem like a pretty minor change and very low risk. But all black?
Really? OK, it does get my attention faster, so I'll give you that one.
However, the interactive bits (buttons in a bubble) are inconsistent", a
point of view shared by Bill Nottingham "So, looking at this now, it
looks like it integrates well with the gnome-shell sort of
desktop/palette, but not the current gnome defaults.[...] I'm also
concerned about the timing of this... I take it this wasn't ready at
feature freeze?". As a reply, William Jon McCann, Matthias' colleague
from the Red Hat Desktop Team invited complainers to use an competing
operating system "By the way have you tried the latest Ubuntu nightly?
It isn't half bad. Snow Leopard? Doesn't suck. Windows 7 - yeah I could
-- Security Advisories --
In this section, we cover Security Advisories from
fedora-package-announce. Note: for this issue, we cover released
packages from Sept. 19 - Oct.3, 2009.
Contributing Writer: Pascal Calarco
--- Fedora 11 Security Advisories ---
* bugzilla-3.2.5-1.fc11 -
* drupal-6.14-1.fc11 -
* drupal-date-6.x.2.4-0.fc11 -
* xmp-2.7.1-1.fc11 -
* cyrus-imapd-2.3.15-1.fc11 -
* rubygem-actionpack-2.3.3-2.fc11 -
* rubygem-activesupport-2.3.3-2.fc11 -
* gnutls-2.6.6-3.fc11 -
* asterisk-184.108.40.206-1.fc11 -
* backintime-0.9.26-3.fc11 -
* newt-0.52.10-4.fc11 -
* samba-3.4.2-0.42.fc11 -
--- Fedora 10 Security Advisories ---
* bugzilla-3.2.5-1.fc10 -
* drupal-6.14-1.fc10 -
* drupal-date-6.x.2.4-0.fc10 -
* rubygem-activesupport-2.1.1-2.fc10 -
* rubygem-actionpack-2.1.1-3.fc10 -
* cyrus-imapd-2.3.15-1.fc10 -
* xmp-2.7.1-1.fc10 -
* proftpd-1.3.2a-5.fc10 -
* asterisk-220.127.116.11-1.fc10 -
* gnutls-2.4.2-5.fc10 -
* backintime-0.9.26-3.fc10 -
* newt-0.52.10-2.fc10 -
* kernel-18.104.22.168-170.2.94.fc10 -
* samba-3.2.15-0.36.fc10 -
-- Virtualization --
In this section, we cover discussion of Fedora virtualization
technologies on the @fedora-virt and @fedora-xen-list lists.
Contributing Writer: Dale Bewley
--- Fedora Virtualization List ---
This section contains the discussion happening on the fedora-virt list.
---- Fedora virt status ----
The latest status report from Mark McLoughlin Prompts us all to help
out as the Fedora 12 "Beta is on its way out the door and release
candidate composes will begin in less than four weeks time." "Here are
three ways you could help out with getting F12 into great shape."
Continue reading in the archive to find out how you can help!
---- New Tools virt-rescue and virt-edit ----
Richard Jones announced two new tools in
image:Echo-package-16px.pnglibguestfs-tools, virt-rescue and virt-edit.
The virt-rescue tool "lets you run a rescue shell against a virtual
machine" while virt-edit lets you edit a file inside a VM". For example:
virt-edit mydomain /boot/grub/grub.conf
--- Fedora Xen List ---
This section contains the discussion happening on the fedora-xen list.
---- xen/master: pvops git trees rearranged ----
Pasi Kärkkäinen forwarded an announcement from Jeremy Fitzhardinge
about reorganizing the Xen git tree with the dom0 kernel.
"The kernel tree is fairly featureful:"
* basic dom0 support
* ACPI power management
* S3 suspend/resume (at least for some people)
* microcode update
* MSI support
"In other words, it has as much as it ever has. There are a few notable
* pci front/back
* upstream Linux support
* your pet feature
The Xensource wiki has instructions compiling.
-- KDE --
This section covers the news surrounding the Fedora KDE Special
Contributing Writer: Ryan Rix
--- Fedora 12 KDE Spin Not KDE3-less after all ---
Last week Rex Dieter blogged about the versions of KOffice and K3b
being included in the Fedora 12 KDE live spin. "The reality is that the
kde4 ports of both k3b and koffice aren't quite ready, and not
recommended for use by either upstream," says Dieter, so the versions
shipping with Fedora 11 are going to be KOffice 1.6 and k3b 1.0.
Unofficial builds of KDE4's Koffice and k3b will continue to be built in
the unofficial kde-redhat/unstable repos
--- KDE-SIG steering committee formed ---
At Tuesday's KDE-SIG IRC meeting an official steering committee was
formed so that the SIG has somewhere "to take contentious decisions
[and] so we know who exactly should be voting in such cases," says Kevin
Kofler. The KDE-SIG steering group is formed of seven members, Rex
Dieter, Than Ngo, Lukáš Tinkl, Kevin Kofler, Steven Parrish, Jaroslav
Řezník and Sebastian Vahl. Rex Dieter will summarize the exact rules for
voting and management of the Steering Committee at next week's meeting.
--- Amarok 2.2 released ---
This week marked the release of Amarok 2.2 "Sunjammer." Rex Dieter has
been faithfully providing the Amarok builds from the first 2.2 beta to
this release, and the final 2.2 release is currently in the
updates-testing repository. This release marks the first official
release that has many features that Amarok users have been missing since
the 1.4 series, including the ability to sort the playlist and rearrange
the application's layout to your preferences. Amarok 2.2 will be the
first release series that will "focus on improving what is there rather
than adding major new features," says Amarok developer Lydia Pintscher.
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