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Re: A new notification theme



Am Dienstag, den 29.09.2009, 09:20 -0400 schrieb Matthias Clasen:
> On Tue, 2009-09-29 at 15:00 +0200, Christoph Wickert wrote:
> > Am Donnerstag, den 24.09.2009, 20:48 -0400 schrieb Matthias Clasen:
> > > Tomorrows rawhide will have a new notification theme for Gnome. 
> > > 
> > > The aim of this new theme is to integrate well with the theming in the
> > > rest of the desktop (which wasn't really the case with nodoka bubbles
> > > and a clearlooks desktop).
> > 
> > After I have seen them now I can say I think they are horrible. We could
> > really argue if the Nodoka bubbles matched the rest of Nodoka, but this
> > definitely matches even less.
> > 
> > I think such changes shouldn't been done as a solo action without
> > previous notice. Has the design team been aked about this? (No, Matthias
> > and Jon, you are *not* the design team, sorry). Or people from the
> > desktop SIG? How about other contributors?
> 
> The design team is busy doing backgrounds.

You are busy, the design team is busy. What's the difference? We are all
busy at this time of the development cycle I guess.

> We _are_ doing the design of the desktop spin, whether you like it or
> not. Just like I expect you to do the design of the Xfce spin, and the
> KDE team to do the design of their product.

I do the design of the Xfce Spin, but I do it different. I'm not making
changes without asking for feedback and announcing the changes. When I
introduced Nodoka for xfwm4, I did that because I was asked to do it. I
posted the result to the mailing lists and *then* made the change. This
is a fundamentally different from your solo actions. The order DOES
matter, even if Jon says that nothing ever is final.

> > IMHO this change is also very ungrateful to Martin, who does an amazing
> > job with the Nodoka theme.
> 
> Yes, he is doing a great job with the Nodoka theme. 
> 
> How does that imply that we are ungrateful by not sticking with it
> forever ?

By making a decision without asking the people involved. And Martin
definitely is one of these people. Please give him and the rest of the
community a chance respond to the problems you have with his/their work.

Thanks,
Christoph


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