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Re: Re: Definition of Open Source [was Re: pine: UW permission to distribute]



I know this will never happen, but I think the ideal solution for this
would be to merge all the major 3rd party repositories so that we're
left with Fedora Extras (which could be included in the default yum.conf
and similar files) for anything that doesn't have legal issues, and
livna.org (which could be renamed to something to clearify just what
livna does) for the packages that have something fishy about them that
prevents inclusion in Fedora-Extras. 

This way, even though Fedora never ever officially direct users to
livna.org, most of the community will know and agree that livna.org is
the place to go for xmms-mp3 and similar and let the newcomers know. 


ons, 21.07.2004 kl. 17.30 skrev Aaron Bennett:
> On Wed, 2004-07-21 at 10:25, Jeff Spaleta wrote:
> > On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 16:02:29 +0200, Leonard den Ottolander
> > <leonard den ottolander nl> wrote:
> > > What needs to be avoided is that such software is mixed with free
> > > software in the repository.
> > 
> > I have a whole laundry list of policy questions regarding how to deal
> > with non-free software.
> > 
> > What licensing terms are allowable in Core? Which are excluded based
> > on informed legal
> > opinion considering liability compared to being excluded based on policy?
> > 
> > What licensing terms are allowable in Extras? Which are excluded based
> > on informed legal opinion considering liability compared to excluded
> > based on policy?
> > 
> > Can Fedora host or maintain a non-free repository? Is it worth it or
> > does it detract from the Core objectives?
> 
> This is a crucial question.  For example, there are about 10 external
> repositories which contain useful stuff, like Dag, Freshrpms, ATrpms,
> etc.
> 
> There's also livna.org, which contains packages built to the same QA
> standards, naming schemes, etc as Fedora Extras.  
> 
> The problem is, it's a lot easier for a new users to find the rpms from
> Dag, Freshrpms, ATrpms, etc then it is to find them from livna.org.  If
> Fedora.redhat.com could link to livna.org, then new users would more
> easily find a source of high-quality, QA'd, version-number-compatible,
> etc packages.  This is not to disparage any of the other repositories,
> their QA efforts, or naming schemes.  But I'd prefer that my users
> install software which has been QA'd and which I know if
> version-compatible, rather then find that they installed a ton of stuff
> from freshrpms.net and dag and now are having major problems upgrading.
> 
> Anyhow, it's a legal issue.  First person with a .redhat.com email
> address to respond wins. :-)
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Sindre Pedersen Bjordal <foolish fedoraforum org>
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