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RE: Kernel Crashs - interessting ?



On Fri, 2004-11-26 at 10:10 -0500, Paul Iadonisi wrote:
> On Fri, 2004-11-26 at 08:51 -0600, Otto Haliburton wrote:
> 
> [snip]
> 
> > my problem is that people are being instructed to go to nvidia and
> > report a problem that they won't respond to.  You are a daydreamer if
> > you think that if this driver is not theirs then they will respond, if
> > they haven't written a linux driver your complaint is going into the bit
> > bucket.  The second part of this is if the problem is not occuring in
> > windoze then what makes you think that it is a problem with nvidia
> > driver and that you need to take a deeper look at what is happening in
> > linux.  You always get these tyype responses from a simple let's
> > investigate the problem as a linux problem and come up with the facts to
> > present to nvidia!!!!!!
> 
>   Read up a little on the 'tainted' bit in the kernel.  It was
> implemented for a reason, and binary-only vendors are (or should be)
> 100% aware of it, and its purpose.  Once a non-GPL compliant component
> is loaded into the kernel, ALL bets are off.  Period.  End of story.
>   There's no telling what a closed source binary module will do to
> internal structures in the kernel.  That's true for GPLed code, too, but
> in that case, it's reasonably debuggable by the kernel developers.
>   That tainted bit is there so the kernel developers can take a look at
> an Oops, see the tainted bit is set, and dump the report into the bit
> bucket.  Once that bit is set, it's time to go to the providers of those
> binary only kernel components.  No linux kernel developer whom I know of
> will waste any of his valuable time investigating.  The only fact(s)
> that I know of that you can provide to nVidia is your kernel version /
> distribution release and the Oops (or whatever other problem anyone's
> having).
> -- 
> -Paul Iadonisi
>  Senior System Administrator
>  Red Hat Certified Engineer / Local Linux Lobbyist
>  Ever see a penguin fly?  --  Try Linux.
>  GPL all the way: Sell services, don't lease secrets
> 
--
that solves the problem for me and that is what i'm interested in
knowing.  That was my problem, cause i wasn't sure that nvidia supplied
the driver, but if they did then they need to fix it.  That is all i'm
saying.  Most of the suppliers will give you the jerk around about
complaints that you have from a linux system, but say we have supplied a
package but we don't really support it.  So as I said "if nvidia
supplied..." then you might succeed, but otherwise seek other means.
Otto Haliburton <ottohaliburton comcast net>


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