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Re: rawhide report: 20060121 changes



Rahul Sundaram wrote:

> Neal Becker wrote:
> 
>>Richard Hally wrote:
>>
>>  
>>
>>>Igor Jagec wrote:
>>>    
>>>
>>>>...
>>>>--> Running transaction check
>>>>--> Processing Dependency: libtotem-plparser.so.0 for package: rhythmbox
>>>>--> Processing Dependency: hotplug >= 3:2004_04_01-10 for package:
>>>>sane-backends--> Processing Dependency: hotplug for package: udev
>>>>--> Finished Dependency Resolution
>>>>Error: Missing Dependency: libtotem-plparser.so.0 is needed by package
>>>>rhythmboxError: Missing Dependency: hotplug >= 3:2004_04_01-10 is needed
>>>>by package sane-backends
>>>>Error: Missing Dependency: hotplug is needed by package udev
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>      
>>>>
>>>yum --exclude=totem\* --exclude=initscripts update
>>>
>>>    
>>>
>>
>>After yum refused to update my system, I tried instead 'smart upgrade'.
>>Smart went ahead and correctly performed the update.
>>
>>While it is _possible_ to get yum to do the update, that is only after you
>>manually figure out just what depends it's complaining about.  This is not
>>trivial, and even worse on a multiarch system.
>>  
>>
> Point is that you should get the dependency issue resolved through file
> bug reports or potentially deal with other issues caused due to missing
> packages. You can work around this using a script -
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Tools/yum but please do notify the
> relevant maintainers if you use this. Dont use this blindly.
> 
> "
> 
> I strongly believe that most users would prefer the smart behavior, or at
> least the option of being asked.  Specifically, if some dependencies have
> problems, offer to go ahead with other packages that don't have problems."
> 
> Smart package behavior of  *downgrading* packages to support dependencies
> is not what RPM has been designed for and neither it is tested by the
> Fedora developers. However if you must use it, it is under review in
> Fedora Extras packages and should be available under the repository soon
> but you will not get any support for any potential issues you deal with it
> from the Fedora Core developers merely because they never tested this
> functionality in the first place nor do they resources to support and test
> multiple package managers with completely different dependency resolving
> algorithms. Yum will continue to be integrated better through Anaconda,
> pirut etc.
> 
> 

Smart did NOT downgrade in this case.  IIUC, what it did is what I consider
optimal, it offered to upgrade the rest of the packages that didn't have a
problem.  


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