Re: Problems with NetworkManager and autofs/NFS

[nodata <lsof nodata co uk>]

Am Donnerstag, den 16.08.2007, 14:43 -0400 schrieb Jon Nettleton:
> On 8/16/07, Orion Poplawski <orion cora nwra com> wrote:
>         NetworkManager is currently (in devel and F7) unusable with
>         autofs and
>         NFS mounts.  This is because NetworkManager is stopped very
>         early in the
>         shutdown process (K02) and brings down the network with
>         it.  Then when
>         autofs attempts to unmount any automounted nfs mounts, they
>         fail because
>         the remote machine is not accessible.  Eventually the machine
>         hangs
>         trying to unmount the last nfs mounted directory.  I suppose
>         it might
>         timeout eventually, but it's beyond my patience to wait that
>         long. 
>         
>         Questions:
>         
>         - Why is NetworkManager shutdown so early?
>         
>         - Should autofs/nfs shutdown do a forced unmount if
>         needed?  Would that
>         work?
>         
>         - Do we need tighter NIS/autofs integration into
>         NetworkManager?
> 
> Moving forward  we need much tighter integration with all
> NetworkManager and all
> network services on the machine.  What I have done to reduce
> contention as well
> as boot time is to remove the following services from my init process 
> 
> iscsi
> iscsid
> ntpd
> autofs
> sshd
> avahi-daemon
> avahi-dnsconfd
> yum-updatesd
> 
> They all now are started by custom scripts
> in /etc/NetworkManager/dispatcher.d.  Yes
> I know that theoretically autofs doesn't below there because it can
> mount non network 
> drives, but I don't use that so it is there now.
> 
> I can pass some of my stuff along if you are interested.
> 
> Jon
> 
> 
> 

This all comes down to a failure of the init system to be smart enough
though, doesn't it?