Is there room for improvement in rescue mode? (was Re: Goodbye, Fedora)
Andy Green
andy at warmcat.com
Thu Feb 22 19:20:57 UTC 2007
Jeff Spaleta wrote:
> For the purposes of this discussion, we will take it for granted that
> at some point in the course of a 3 or 4 releases, many (i dare not say
> most..but many) people who are acting as the primary sysadmin for a
> fedora install will experience some sort of human error which will
> render their system unbootable. This is an unasailable axiom for the
> rest of this discussion.
>
> What can we do in the timescale of an F8 release to make using the
> rescue mode easier and more obvious course of action. Are there ways
> we can advertise its existence as part of sysadmin interaction with a
> normal operating system? Would it be helpful to slip in a rescue
> environment as a grub menu option instead of relying on install media?
That would be cool, another related improvement would be to stick the
rescue image itself in /boot or in some rescue partition that can be
defined in Anaconda. IIRC it was 80MB or something to download the
rescue-only ISO, that's lost in the noise nowadays for most cases.
> Does it make sense to spend some effort making a more featurefull
> rescue-like environment with guided troubleshooting characteristics?
> What are the top three implementable ideas which would encourage
> casual admins to reach for the rescue environment instead of a full
> wipe and re-install?
I know what would help people "reach for it": if something noticeably
fatal happens during the boot, reboot into the rescue image
automatically right away with a path to the broken dmesg and/or
initscript output sitting there along with some help text. Maybe even
use a HW watchdog action to get into the rescue even after something
really fatal.
Extra bonus power if it can catch the full dmesg / panic somewhere the
survives the warm boot.
Super invulnerability power points if sshd comes up too if it can find
the original /etc/sysconfig stuff so even remote servers can be adminned
after a panic.
-Andy
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