Re: SSH on by default? (Was: too many deamons by default - F7 test 2 live cd)

[Thomas M Steenholdt <tmus tmus dk>]

Nicolas Mailhot wrote:
> Le Mar 20 mars 2007 10:42, Thomas M Steenholdt a écrit :
> > Nicolas Mailhot wrote:
> > > Disabling ssh is not a good solution, many people need it. However the
> > > default fedora ssh setup is woefully insecure
> > >
> > > At least ssh rate-limiting should be in the default firewall install.
> > > Pam_abl would be even better (for other network services)
> > Blacklisting opens the potential for denial-of-service attacks. I'm not
> > too familiar with the pam_abl implementation,
>
> You have per-source-host and per-target-user tuneables

Potential problems with user=root and/or IP spoofing?

> > but we should at least be
> > very cautious if we choose to include and enable such features by default.
>
> Sure. But sitting on the problem won't solve it.

Agreed!

/Thomas