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Re: rpms/xchat/devel xchat-2.8.2-desktop.patch, NONE, 1.1 xchat.spec, 1.62, 1.63 xchat-2.4.2-nickmenu-away-msg.patch, 1.2, NONE xchat-2.4.3-lib64.patch, 1.1, NONE xchat-2.4.4-multiline-messages.patch, 1.1, NONE xchat-2.4.4-redhat-desktop.patch, 1.1, NONE xchat-2.6.0-dbus-api.patch, 1.1, NONE xchat-2.6.6-es.patch, 1.1, NONE xchat-2.6.6-fi.patch, 1.1, NONE xchat-2.6.6-nonblock.patch, 1.1, NONE xchat-2.6.6-simplify-to-use-gnome-open-for-default-webbrowser.patch, 1.1, NONE xchat-2.6.6-simplify-to-use-htmlview-for-default-webbrowser.patch, 1.1, NONE
- From: Kevin Kofler <kevin kofler chello at>
- To: fedora-devel-list redhat com
- Subject: Re: rpms/xchat/devel xchat-2.8.2-desktop.patch, NONE, 1.1 xchat.spec, 1.62, 1.63 xchat-2.4.2-nickmenu-away-msg.patch, 1.2, NONE xchat-2.4.3-lib64.patch, 1.1, NONE xchat-2.4.4-multiline-messages.patch, 1.1, NONE xchat-2.4.4-redhat-desktop.patch, 1.1, NONE xchat-2.6.0-dbus-api.patch, 1.1, NONE xchat-2.6.6-es.patch, 1.1, NONE xchat-2.6.6-fi.patch, 1.1, NONE xchat-2.6.6-nonblock.patch, 1.1, NONE xchat-2.6.6-simplify-to-use-gnome-open-for-default-webbrowser.patch, 1.1, NONE xchat-2.6.6-simplify-to-use-htmlview-for-default-webbrowser.patch, 1.1, NONE
- Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 19:17:12 +0000 (UTC)
Christopher Aillon <fedora-extras-commits > writes:
> > - follow desktop-entry-spec on Name and GenericName as required by the
> > Packaging Guidelines
>
> Except this is so very wrong. This is not what the spec (which we take
> active part in writing) is intended to do.
Yet it is what it _says_, and also what KDE based their implementation on when
they offered the _user_ to decide whether they want to show real or generic
names (or both, which is the best solution IMHO) rather than having the distro
force a decision on them. The blatant disrespect for the spec in some
Fedora .desktop files breaks that and leads to inconsistent menus.
IMHO, a generic name has no business to be in the Name field, that's what
GenericName is for. And I definitely know there are other people agreeing with
me on that (Rex Dieter, for example).
> I'll attempt to get this clarified with fesco
I'd appreciate some enforcement of the democratically-voted packaging
guidelines, which explicitly say "Installed .desktop files MUST follow the
[desktop-entry-spec], paying particular attention to validating correct usage
of Name, GenericName, [Categories], [StartupNotify] entries.", from FeSCo!
> but please undo the .desktop change.
I'm not too happy about doing that because I really believe my change is both
the right thing to do and required to comply with the guidelines, but if that's
the only way the update (just pushed to updates-testing) can go into the
released updates without causing a big stir, I'll have to comply. :-(
Kevin Kofler
- Follow-Ups:
- Re: rpms/xchat/devel xchat-2.8.2-desktop.patch, NONE, 1.1 xchat.spec, 1.62, 1.63 xchat-2.4.2-nickmenu-away-msg.patch, 1.2, NONE xchat-2.4.3-lib64.patch, 1.1, NONE xchat-2.4.4-multiline-messages.patch, 1.1, NONE xchat-2.4.4-redhat-desktop.patch, 1.1, NONE xchat-2.6.0-dbus-api.patch, 1.1, NONE xchat-2.6.6-es.patch, 1.1, NONE xchat-2.6.6-fi.patch, 1.1, NONE xchat-2.6.6-nonblock.patch, 1.1, NONE xchat-2.6.6-simplify-to-use-gnome-open-for-default-webbrowser.patch, 1.1, NONE xchat-2.6.6-simplify-to-use-htmlview-for-default-webbrowser.patch, 1.1, NONE
- Reverted for F-7, feedback wanted for devel (was: Re: rpms/xchat/devel ...)
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