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Re: Adding /sbin and /usr/sbin to everyone's path in F10



2008/4/24 Toshio Kuratomi <a badger gmail com>:
>
> max bianco wrote:
>
> > On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 8:57 PM, Thomas M Steenholdt <tmus tmus dk> wrote:
> >
> > > Hans de Goede wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > > Tom "spot" Callaway wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > I propose that we add /sbin and /usr/sbin to the path for normal
> users
> > > > > (as well as root) for F10? There are plenty of useful tools in there
> for
> > > > > non-root users (ifconfig, fdisk, parted), and IMHO, any tool which
> > > > > assumes the user is root because it lives in /sbin is fundamentally
> > > > > broken. The LSB doesn't mandate this (at least, not anywhere I can
> see),
> > > > > so I propose that we just do it.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Anyone opposed to such an action?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > Not at all,
> > > >
> > > > +1000000
> > > >
> > > > I've been consistenly changing /etc/profile todo exactly this since
> the
> > > >
> > > day I started using RH 4.0
> > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > >
> > > > Hans
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >  Isn't that more or less the same reason most windows users login as
> > > administrator - The convenience?
> > >
> > >  Note: I know the security risk in the two examples are not in the same
> > > ball-park, so there's no need to lecture me on that.
> > >
> > >  I'm merely speaking of convenience and how it sometimes makes it feel
> right
> > > to do the wrong thing.
> > >
> > >
> > Speaking as probably one of the most inexperienced Fedora users
> > subscribing to this list. I whole-heartedly agree with this sentiment.
> > Its already been said but I will say it again anyway. Those that know
> > how to add things to their $PATH will do just that and not be
> > inconvenienced.
> >
>
>  Actually, this is not true.  I added it to my PATH for years since starting
> on RHL-4.  But at some point in using Fedora, I stopped because  I gave up
> on the hassle of adding a custom PATH to /etc/profile.d/ every time I
> installed a new box.  Additionally, I now have more shell accounts on boxes
> that I only drop into once in a while when something's wrong that I've
> learned to accept the constant annoyance of not having .*/sbin in my PATH.
>
>
>
> > If you don't know how to find ifconfig and add it to
> > your $PATH then you probably would just shoot yourself in the foot
> > with it, if you don't know but are motivated you can certainly find
> > this info easily enough. Our time on this earth is limited  but its
> > not that limited.
> >
>
>  Actually, it is.  Every day, lose six minutes from having to retype a sudo
> line due to not having a PATH configured with sbin.  Most likely when you're
> already stressed that something is broken and you just want to find out what
> as quickly as possible.
>
But you are a poweruser and can make the adjustments to your profile
so you don't have to retype it everytime. I am talking about people
who have no idea what mount,fdisk, or ifconfig are for...

Max


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