max bianco wrote:
>>> (another trick of mine .. a rpm, eg: mycustomizations.rpm to save timefor certain stuff outside the home folder)Having to do that is a pretty clear statement that the defaults are wrong.The defaults are wrong for you ,me, and just about everyone that subscribes to this list. Joe User doesn't need access to these commands.
That is an annoyingly elitist attitude that still doesn't justify making things more confusing.
Others have pointed out that it will break things, whether these broken things will be easy to fix or not is less than relevant.
No they haven't.
Aren't there better things to spend time fixing?
No, always fix the obvious things first so they don't get in the way when you work on something obscure. If you don't want people logging in as root (because you don't trust all the code you ship?), then it should be straightforward to 'su' and execute commands as root.
The best solution as
far as I am concerned is to make all your users responsible for setting up and administering their own box. Sink or swim! Then this conversation would be truly pointless and sysadmins wouldn't have to worry about what is or isn't in the users $PATH.
That has absolutely nothing to do with supplying usable defaults, which is what this conversation was about.
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