Re: Adding /sbin and /usr/sbin to everyone's path in F10

[Suren Karapetyan <surenkarapetyan gmail com>]

Les Mikesell wrote:
> Thomas M Steenholdt wrote:
>
> > Someone clever once came up with the great KISS concept.
> >
> > Applied to this particular problem, we should try to make things 
> > simple (as in easy) for all users and admins while keeping the system 
> > simple (as in complexity).
> >
> > That solution has already been subscribed in the thread over and 
> > over, symlink the tools that make sense from */sbin/ to */bin/ and be 
> > done with it. It will solve all issues in both camps and we can carry 
> > on.
>
> If you don't take them all, how does this solve the problem that 'su' 
> vs. 'su -' will still not have all the same things included in your 
> path?   Personally, I'd rather see everything moved to /bin and 
> /usr/bin with /sbin and /user/sbin changed to compatibility symlinks, 
> but that can only be done cleanly during a new install (or maybe 
> wrapped in a reboot).
I don't quite understand why "su" and "su -" should be doing the same thing.
What's the point in "-" if they should do the same?
BTW tweaking PATH or symlinking stuff from */sbin into */bin or merger 
won't make "su" behave like "su -".
Personally I'm happy doing "su" then "make install" if I don't want to 
change cwd and my exports (CFLAGS?) and aliases and doing "su -" to do 
some tweaking with iptables, ip, tc, dhcpd, asterisk...
I've never liked the Ubuntu way of doing things. The first thing I did 
on any Ubuntu system I had to use was "sudo passwd; su -"
And also: I've never had */sbin in the PATH of my non-root user.