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Re: Packaging question: /usr/share/gnome/help ownership



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Toshio Kuratomi wrote:
> Kevin Kofler wrote:
>> Toshio Kuratomi <a.badger <at> gmail.com> writes:
>>> Err... the last time this came up it was successfully argued that
>>> having "Help" fail to work was a bug.  The initial idea was to have
>>> something within the GNOME stack require yelp but I believe that
>>> failed because of circular dependencies.
>>>
>>> So if this will cause problems because of system-config-* dragging in
>>> xulrunner we need to come up with some other way of solving the
>>> help-won't-display bug.
>>
>> IMHO it is not a bug, help is an optional feature, and we have tight
>> size constraints on the live images.
>>
>> We also faced a similar issue with KDE 3 apps dragging in all the KDE
>> 4 stack because khelpcenter is now from KDE 4, there too (even though
>> this probably doesn't affect any of the live images) we decided to not
>> put a dependency in and to simply have help in KDE 3 apps only work if
>> the KDE 4 kdebase-runtime is installed (which will always be the case
>> in a KDE installation anyway).
>>
> Giving a newbie a linux live cd to try without having help files is far
> from ideal.  Ways to solve the problem are appreciated.  Reasons why you
> consider it an optional feature rather than an integral part of the user
> experience will be listened to and either argued with or create
> converts.  Merely claiming size constraints is not likely to create
> change -- the x86_64 spins of both the live Desktop and live KDE spins
> are both larger than a CD already.
> 
So make yelp Provides: gnome-help-viewer and have packages that have
help files require it instead? That way, live CDs can override this by
having a stub package. Ditto with kdebase-runtime providing kde-help-viewer

(hm, sounds like the next thing for FD.o to standardize: help viewing)

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Michel
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