Re: F8 kernel-2.6.24.3-12.fc8

[Andrew Farris <lordmorgul gmail com>]

Zing wrote:
> On Mon, 10 Mar 2008 14:23:53 -0500, Callum Lerwick wrote:
>
> > On Mon, 2008-03-10 at 01:22 -0700, Andrew Farris wrote:
> > > In any case, the try-catch mechanism is in place by keeping the prior
> > > kernel installed, and if it fails you choose the next one in the list
> > > next time.  It is not possible to try a kernel until its been booted,
> > > and when it does boot if the kernel itself misbehaves it is not
> > > possible to do anything automatic because the kernel has failed to do
> > > what it should do...
> > It's easy. It's much like the dirty flag on filesystems. GRUB writes a
> > flag somewhere on disk, that indicates "Attempting to boot kernel
> > 2.6.XXXXX". Then somewhere in the early userspace init scripts, you
> > change the flag to "Finished booting kernel 2.6.XXXX". The next time
> > grub starts up, it sees this flag and it now knows that that particular
> > kernel at least made it to userspace, which is a pretty good indication
> > it's not completely b0rked. If GRUB starts up and sees a "Attempting
> > boot" flag still remaining, then that's an indication that that kernel
> > failed to boot.
> >
> > And I know this idea has come up before... Is this on anyone's to-do
> > list?
>
> I believe redhat has been carrying around a patch in grub which 
> essentially would allow the above, called "bootonce" patch.  It allows 
> you to couple it with "reboot on kernel panic" and "failback" to a known 
> working kernel... I've never tried it or had the use for it myself.

This idea is still going to work for some failures and not for others.  I 
suppose it is better to have that than nothing, but you have to choose where to 
place the 'ok the kernel is booted enough to count' position in the booting 
sequence.  For that to be really useful it needs to be after any kernel modules 
are loaded and fairly deep into the daemon startup I would think.

IMO, The user still needs to know about the grub menu and the presence of 
multiple kernels in the end.

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