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Re: Xorg 1.5 missed the train?



2008/5/21 Adam Jackson <ajax redhat com>:
> On Tue, 2008-05-20 at 19:19 -0700, Christopher Stone wrote:
>
>> > In the real world, you're asking Fedora to do something to enable
>> > binary drivers which goes against it's goals. And then you're whining
>> > about it when we say no.
>>
>> Oh yea, to have one developer spend one day to provide a compatibility
>> route for a large number of Fedora users is just *way* too much to
>> ask...sheesh...
>>
>> I'm not asking for someone to spend a year full time on this, it would
>> only take about one day's worth of effort as far as I can see.
>
> That's so adorably misguided.
>
> Let's see.  Compat packages for the X server and every driver.  That's
> about sixty new packages, all of which have to go through new package
> review.  Even if they're all perfect, you're looking at a good 30
> minutes apiece just to get the things into CVS, then another hour or so
> until everything manages to bubble out of koji.  Except, of course, that
> they won't be perfect, since they'll file-conflict with the non-compat
> drivers.  So you'll have to add explicit Conflicts to each of now ~120
> packages.  Okay, more like an hour for each package now, since we're
> having to test packaging behaviour.  Ooh, and now we're picking up an
> additional set of packages to apply stability fixes to.
>
> So, uh.  A week and a half of doing _nothing_ _else_, when I'm already
> clearly overscheduled.  A good solid sixty hours of work, plus a
> continuing time investment of essentially a whole new current distro to
> support, a level of time investment that I wouldn't sign up for for
> RHEL for less than seven figures of revenue.  All to continue to make
> some binary driver work.
>
> How's no sound?  Is no good for you?  No's great for me.
>
> Let me put this as politely as possible: compatibility X server packages
> are out of the fucking question.  I've refused them in paid supported
> products for strong technical and support reasons, and I'm not about to
> start doing them for free just to get my jollies preserving
> interoperability with someone's binary blob.

Pfft, you dont have to put these through review, you dont have to do a
QA on them, you just have to take the f8 rpms and rebuild them on f9,
stick them in updates-testing and be done with it.  One or two days
tops, nothing more.  Sheesh....


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