Proposal: Rolling Release

[Ralf Corsepius]

On Tue, 2008-11-11 at 12:51 -0600, Rex Dieter wrote:
> Ralf Corsepius wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, 2008-11-11 at 12:34 -0600, Rex Dieter wrote:
> >> Ralf Corsepius wrote:
>  
> >> <sarcasm>
> >> Who really needs all that fedora infrastructure, peer/package review,
> >> qa/testing, anyway.  Much easier to skip all that.
> >> </sarcasm>
> 
> > Well, ... if the fedora infrastructure was really serving contributors,
> > if peer/package reviews were functional, if testing was functional, then
> > this all would not be an issue.
> 
> > The unpleasant truth is: It isn't.
> 
> Standard response: how exactly isn't it?

Let me pick just 2 examples:

* infrastructure: Fedora's infrastructure in first place mean struggling
with a zoo of more or less arguable processes/work-flows (freezes, FTBP,
wikis ...), a zoo of more or less functional tools (bugzilla, FAS,
packagedb, koji, bodhi, ...) and a zoo of bureaucracy they are
implementing.

* testing: The parties testing a contributed package in first place is
the package's upstream, the packager and this package's end-users.
Fedora only contributes to testing a package insofar, as having a
package in Fedora widens the "potential user-base" of a package.

>   How exactly do you propose to make it better?
I guess you should know my answers :-)

Points to getting started with would be 
* "getting rid of the freezes"
* "getting rid of the update delays"
* improve the tools contributors are forced to use.

Ralf