starting Fedora Server SIG

[Jerry Amundson]

On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 9:47 PM, Rahul Sundaram
<sundaram at fedoraproject.org> wrote:
> Les Mikesell wrote:
>>
>> Jesse Keating wrote:
>>>
>>> On Wed, 2008-11-19 at 13:24 -0600, Les Mikesell wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Agreed, but when the kernel hardware detection order was predictable,
>>>> this was simple.  Now it isn't.
>>>
>>> When was it predictable?  Even in the 2.4 era, we'd get one chassis
>>> barebones from a vender like supermicro and the nic order would be one
>>> way, then next month we'd order the same chassis barebones and the nics
>>> would be picked up in a different order.  Even more fun is when they'd
>>> change with a kernel update, so that the kernel we installed with had
>>> one order, and the kernel we updated to and rebooted to had it in a
>>> different order.
>>
>> I'm pretty sure I cloned Centos 3.x across at least 50 IBM 336's with the
>> NICs always being chosen in the same order.
>
> That is just being lucky. Even in 2.4 kernel the order wasn't always
> predictable. It changed and there was a post from Linus in LKML about
> considering making it deliberately random to avoid any misconceptions that
> it can always be predictable. It includes details on why it isn't as well. I
> am sure you can find good references.

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