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Re: My first DontZap use case while testing F11 beta



David wrote:
On 4/8/2009 12:29 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
David wrote:
On 4/8/2009 11:25 AM, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
David wrote:

Said more simply? This discussion is on the wrong list. You're
talking to
the wrong people. Actually it looks more like you are talking to
yourselves.
Not quite: Setting up a distro and preparing packages to include them
into a distro is a bit more than blindly following "upstreams".

It also means package maintainers to be "listening" to their
"user-base", to communicate their user-base's concerns upstream and to
deviate from upstream when necessary.


This discussion has me thinking about the last time I used C-A-B. And
quite
honestly I can't recall the last time. Certainly not recently.
As far as I am concerned:
- Ca. 4 weeks ago, when trying to get my netbook working with an
external monitor
- Today, when something, I don't know, crashed X and left me with an
entirely black screen.


I do understand that some users have problems and that some users need
this.
However the way I see it is that the change has been made and will not be
reverting.

Which means one of two things.

Learn to live with the change. Or you change it back yourself.
Or ...
- exchange upstream
- exchange the fedora packager
- switch the distro.
- fork the distro (This change alone is easy to patch).

I think it would be appropriate to have FESCo interfere and let them
vote on this matter.

Seems simple
enough. One little change. I change many things from the defaults.
With each fedora release, I increasing change more. I am seriously
asking myself why I am using a distro which is increasingly divering
from my needs, and which I experience to be increasingly less usable
wrt. certain aspects.


"switch the distro" won't work. All are going this way.

You might want to have a second glance - SuSE Factory has this:

--- xorg-server-1.6.0/hw/xfree86/common/xf86Config.c.orig 2009-02-28 20:29:42.000000000 +0100 +++ xorg-server-1.6.0/hw/xfree86/common/xf86Config.c 2009-02-28 20:30:44.000000000 +0100
@@ -734,7 +734,7 @@ static OptionInfoRec FlagOptions[] = {
{ FLAG_DONTVTSWITCH, "DontVTSwitch", OPTV_BOOLEAN,
        {0}, FALSE },
{ FLAG_DONTZAP, "DontZap", OPTV_BOOLEAN,
-       {0}, TRUE },
+       {0}, FALSE },
{ FLAG_ZAPWARNING, "ZapWarning", OPTV_BOOLEAN,
        {0}, FALSE },
{ FLAG_DONTZOOM, "DontZoom", OPTV_BOOLEAN,


> So your, and the others, options, are the same as when this started.
Correct - my opinion still is: upstream's decision is silly.

Also, provided the hazzle this issue has caused, I am deeply convinced the change would have been reverted in Fedora, if Fedora package maintainer wasn't a RH employee.




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