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Re: Fedora 11 nerfed my mixer



On Tue, 2009-04-21 at 22:26 +0100, Bastien Nocera wrote:
> On Tue, 2009-04-21 at 13:22 -0500, Callum Lerwick wrote:
> > On Tue, 2009-04-21 at 13:50 +0100, Bastien Nocera wrote:
> I'm pretty sure the interweb provides half-a-gazillion mixer type
> applets, but the mixer applet as it were was removed from gnome-applets
> upstream.

Which is stupid. Deprecate first, then remove only after the new code
has gone through at least one cycle of wide release.

> > Seems like yet another case of ripping out a stable solution and
> > replacing it with a new, shiny and immature one that fails to provide
> > similar functionality.
> 
> You had about a year to complain that the Volume Control feature didn't
> include your use case, and given the 0.01% of the population using their
> sound system like you do, I doubt it would have crossed our minds that
> this could have been the case.

Well I'm sorry, I wasn't able to figure out from an abstract description
and a lot of tl;dr that my use case was going to get screwed. And I
don't have the time to dick around getting my babies eaten following
Rawhide on my critical primary desktop machine. As a personal policy
from experience I don't touch rawhide until Beta. I have Shit To Do that
doesn't include being a damned alpha tester. And even so I'm lucky if I
can even get ! #$ing Beta to install before final release.

I've spent many weeks and many long annoying reboot cycles interrupting
my Shit To Do, filing bugs trying to get preupgrade to even work:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=493685
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=494992
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=496406

I finally just temporally stripped my fstab bare so I could get the
damned thing to install. Once upgraded, I had to screw around trying to
figure out why Pulseaudio was doing nothing but spin in place, eating
100% CPU, getting killed off by the CPU limiter, respawning, and
repeating. Which seemed to magically fix itself after updating to the
Feb 20th rawhide.

Which brings me to now. Fedora 11 isn't even released yet. So don't give
me any bullshit about not being proactive about testing. Pulseaudio
isn't the only broken crap in Fedora.

> >  Can I at least get a secret gconf key to do what
> > I want? :P
> 
> The volume control uses PulseAudio, it doesn't use ALSA directly
> anymore, so no, there's no secret GConf key for that.

So a PulseAudio config option then. Do I have to write the patch myself?

And why do Pidgin alert sounds explode my speakers now? Yeah pump the
hardware volume up to 100%, that's great... Why does Pidgin still not
have native Pulseaudio support? I set it to use paplay because in the
past Pidgin would leak PA connections and RAM like crazy and choke the
machine dead any other way. This "flat volume" thing now seems to mean
short alert tones will cause obnoxious volume glitching if they happen
to be louder than my music.

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