On Fri, 2009-04-24 at 11:03 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > So, in the spirit of light rather than heat, here's my proposal, again, > rescued from the depths of the flamefest, with some actual work > attached. > > g-v-c is clearly intending to be an abstracted and simplified volume > control app / applet to cover the most common use cases in a friendly > way. Great. > > It's clear, though, that some users have needs beyond this, which are > likely only going to be satisfied in a sensible way by access direct to > the ALSA mixer elements. Bastien and Lennart don't want some kind of > hack to expose these via g-v-c, and I'd tend to agree, that's clearly > not what it's designed for. Hello, Hi! It's me, the foul-mouthed purveyor of said infamous thread. Just so we're clear, my irritation has nothing to do with mixer applications. I'm perfectly happy firing up alsamixer in a terminal if I need raw access to ALSA mixer. In fact, I found the "classic" GNOME mixer completely useless, as it hid from me any and all numbers indicating what anything is actually set to. At least throw me a bone and give me a percentage. (Actual dB readings? I've died and gone to heaven!) No, I am concerned purely with the panel applet. I want to place my mouse cursor over the speaker icon on the panel, and roll the scroll wheel to adjust the PCM level. Whatever it takes to do that, I don't care. (Though I also don't want in-application volume sliders screwing with master either. So at the very least, flat volumes are out...) I'd also like keyboard volume buttons to do likewise, but this particular machine has a vintage 1986 IBM Model M on it so the panel applet just works out better... > So my proposal is that we include by default an alternative GUI app > which allows direct access to the mixer channels. This won't be an > applet or anything else persistent, just an application that you can > choose to run if you need that level of access. This does absolutely nothing to address my concerns. > So I suggest what we should do is resurrect gnome-alsamixer. It's still > technically part of GNOME - it's even got moved to the new GNOME git. > Other distributions still package it (Debian, for e.g.) It's even had a > few commits within the last year or so. It was more or less deprecated > in favour of g-v-c, but now we have a case where it may make sense to > have two clearly differentiated apps, and gnome-alsamixer is the obvious > choice. I want the functionality of the old *panel applet* back. gnome-alsamixer does absolutely nothing to make me happy.
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