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Re: Fedora 12 Features Proposed for Removal



Adam Williamson said the following on 08/06/2009 12:49 PM Pacific Time:
On Thu, 2009-08-06 at 13:39 -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
On Thu, 06 Aug 2009 12:34:26 -0700
Adam Williamson <awilliam redhat com> wrote:

...snip...

Sure, and I was always happy to write in GNOME and KDE versions as
'Features' when writing release blurbs for Mandriva. But that's just
pure PR. PR is not all our feature process does - it comes with all
this bureaucracy, intended for dealing with experimental stuff which
may turn out to have been a bad idea, attached to it, it's _not_ a
pure PR exercise. Which leads to the absurdity we have here, the
suggestion that the GNOME 2.28 'feature' should be 'dropped' for
Fedora 12 (does anyone really think we're going to ship it with GNOME
2.26?)
It wasn't a suggestion of that, it was our feature wrangler saying:
hey, check these features because they are not showing 100%. Please see: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Policy

Do we need to change some policy there?

Er, the _topic_ of this thread is "Fedora 12 Features Proposed for
Removal". The email doesn't say anything about 'if you fix this stuff
before the meeting it'll be fine' (though that may be the actual case),
and the amount of notice given is a princely two days, which isn't that
long for anyone to make changes. The way things are worded are clearly
"We're going to drop these features", not "please check this, okay?
Please? Thanks!"

Fair point though one has to asks how many reminders and nags is necessary? I wrongly assumed we had reached a point in this process where everyone was familiar with the definition of feature freeze and the requirements around it. What I overlooked was that new people (which is an excellent thing!) have gotten involved in the process since our early growing pains. The part I don't quite understand is complaints and protests of "I didn't know" from folks that have been involved since the beginning of the feature process.

I'm adding some extra dates to the schedule so that the nagging process is consistent for releases going forward. Hopefully that will help.

John


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