Ready for new RPM version?

Adam Williamson awilliam at redhat.com
Sat Feb 28 02:15:04 UTC 2009


On Fri, 2009-02-27 at 18:05 -0800, Conrad Meyer wrote:

> > Why should the distro be any different? Why do you think it's a good
> > idea to develop something without using it?
> 
> You go ahead and run Rawhide, then. You can be our early warning system. I run 
> Rawhide versions of my own packages when I need them, sure -- but I when I 
> don't need the rawhide version of something, I don't run it. You can promote 
> rawhide usage all you like, but the best you'll get is a "developers *should* 
> use rawhide" -- and developers will continue doing whatever they like, just as 
> they did before you tried to promote running rawhide.

Running Rawhide versions of specific packages isn't the same, because
you don't get the whole environment. There may be some other change
elsewhere in Rawhide which interacts with your package, which you'd only
notice if you ran Rawhide.

The point is that Rawhide is the current development version of the
product we're all working to provide. We need to know what the hell is
actually going on in the current state-of-the-art.

I like your massively negative attitude - "sure, you can TRY and change
things, but it'll never work!" - but I'm afraid I'm going to ignore it.
Having more people run Rawhide would, IMO, contribute to the quality of
the distribution, which is what I'm here to try and improve, so I damn
well will keep evangelizing it.

> Please don't hijack threads like this in the future. (Also: please excuse any 
> typing errors in my emails lately, I'm on a laptop temporarily and its right 
> shift key is broken.)

I posted a short aside, and it mushroomed from there. If people hadn't
taken me up on it, it wouldn't have sprawled into this giant discussion.
I wanted to bring this to the list at a slightly later point and in its
own thread, which I tried to explain earlier, but people kept
discussing, so I kept replying.
-- 
Adam Williamson
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