Re: pam_console

[Bastien Nocera <bnocera redhat com>]

On Sat, 2009-01-17 at 13:43 +0000, Jack Tanner wrote:
> Bill Nottingham <notting <at> redhat.com> writes:
> 
> > 
> > I think it's time to retire pam_console from the default configuration.
> > 
> > For device permissions, we already have the hal/consolekit support which
> > should be use.
<snip>
> Bottom line: before you blow away pam_console, please spend some time doing
> education (e.g., documenting) and outreach (e.g., responding on fedoraforum)
> about the new proper way of doing things that accommodates 80% of the existing
> use cases. If you want to be thorough about it, consider the software (like mpd)
> in a few prominent third-party repos, too.

The problem is that a daemon shouldn't be talking to what should be
session devices. mpd won't work with PulseAudio, and it won't work with
HAL/CK permissions.

The maintainers would be better off adding hacks to set the permissions
on the audio devices in the startup scripts.