F10 and no root login - impossible to maintain systems!

Benjamin LaHaise bcrl at kvack.org
Fri Jan 23 01:17:55 UTC 2009


On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 11:50:16AM +0100, Matej Cepl wrote:
> Prove yourself wrong yourself -- what happens when you do 
> Ctrl+Alt+F2 in X?

I've known about this trick for more than a decade, and when I try to switch 
to any text console on my F10 installs, nothing occurs -- the system remains 
in X.  The combination of that with no more root logins (which I'm vehemently 
opposed to as I think this nannying of experienced users is against the whole 
Linux experience) and changes to the grub config that make the window to 
catch the boot loader much narrower, my overall impression of Fedora 10 as a 
long time Linux user is very negative.  Firefox keeps losing my bookmarks 
(yes, there's a bug filed for that with mozilla), arrow keys don't work 
correctly in qemu or vmware, metacity crashes on startup 1 in 5 logins, 
suspend doesn't work despite the next generation suspend code being used 
in other distributions that do work, and all my systems have had their nfs 
mounts denied due to another overzealous "security improvement"...

Sure, some of these are simple bugs, but the one that drives me nuts is the 
system denying me the ability to fix it.  The security concerns are 
unreasonable given that Fedora 9 popped up a dialog warning a user when 
logging in as root.  This is a step backwards in usability, not an improvement.

		-ben




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