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Re: System Config Tools Cleanup Project - tools to eliminate/replace



On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 1:37 AM, Suren Karapetyan
<surenkarapetyan gmail com> wrote:
> Arthur Pemberton wrote:
> Come on... :)
> A full-fledged daemon running all the time sitting on the system bus
> waking up every few seconds (to eat CPU) which is going to do

What exactly is a full-fledged daemon tha makes it bad things for
servers or desktops? What amount of your CPU is it using that it is
such a bad thing.

> ifconfig eth0 111.111.111.111/24 up
> ip route add default via 111.111.111.222
> echo "nameserver 111.111.111.123" > /etc/resolv.conf
>
> And do it only *once* every reboot (which can easily be 30+ days).
>
> This makes sense neither for servers nor for desktops.

Look, if you have a simple setup fine. I am all for everyone having
their choice. But taking the tone that it is some bad thing or a waste
of time is ridiculous. It makes sense on desktops unless they have a
connection that cannot ever be severed, and do not use VPNs.

> It's useful for laptops which travel a lot (not even all laptops, cause many
> of them are used as desktop-replacements).

It's useful for desktops as well.

> What I'm asking for is to allow free choice, cause , you know, there is no
> such thing as "one true way",
> i.e. what is the only way in one situation may be completely useless and
> even stupid in another.

What's the point of asking for that when you can already turn
NetworkManager off. If NetworkManager fills all the role provided by
s-c-network, there's no point in having two ways to do the same thing.
I started off by saying that there are several things that
NetworkManager doesn't do yet so s-c-network shouldn't be removed yet.

Some of these things bring change and seem to make some people overly
nervous, as long you can do things the old way, try not to block
change that is useful to everyone else.  It's just like PulseAudio, it
helps a lot of people, but it works terribly for me, so I just removed
it. No need to go complaining about its existence.

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