Re: 182 pending F11 stable updates. WTF?

[Ralf Corsepius <rc040203 freenet de>]

Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Sat, 2009-05-09 at 03:32 +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
>
> > > This has
> > > nothing to do with the release prep process, but how we version update
> > > packages (we version them in such a way that an update shipped for
> > > Fedora N-1 can often become versioned higher than the version of that
> > > package in Fedora N release repos, and that's not a problem you can ever
> > > 'fix' in the ISO generation process).
> > The trick would be to decouple "DVD-preparations" from "F11-release".
> >
> > One way to achieve this would be rel-eng to start with a copy/snapshot 
> > of rawhide, but to let F11-release "roll on", e.g. by spawning 
> > "F11-updates".
> >
> > When encountering issues with their set of packages, they would have to 
> > try fixing their issues by adding packages from "updates" to their set 
> > of packages.
>
> That doesn't help at all, because in the end, they're still building a
> static image.
It does.

> As soon as someone ships an F10 update *after* the F11
> images are released, things start breaking. It's just in the nature of
> a) static release images and b) how we version updates.
Well, of it doesn't solve all issues, but it would allow package 
maintainers to continue their work during the "DVD-composition phase", 
which would allow them to minimize NEVR conflicts and other side-effects 
the "freeze" has, e.g. being unable to update F11 packages because 
prerequisite package deps are not available in F11.

Ralf