livecds in the future

[Rahul Sundaram]

On 11/24/2009 08:35 PM, Simon Andrews wrote:
> Rahul Sundaram wrote:
>> On 11/24/2009 02:21 AM, Ben Williams wrote:
>>> If release engineering would like to release liveusb.iso for people to
>>> use to install or just to look at the new features, that is fine But
>>> from the #fedora channel the # of people installing off of the livecd
>>> images are very high (if you want to search the logs i am sure they can
>>> be provided, and yes the # installing useing the livecd.iso on usb is
>>> high as well.)
>>
>> Have you done a survey asking if a 1 GB Live image won't satisfy their
>> needs?
> 
> To reverse the question - has there been any solicitation of feedback
> about how many people would be adversely affected by this change?  This
> is the first I'd heard of it.
> 
> I appreciate the desire to put more content on the default desktop spin
> and think it would be a good thing to be able to include this sort of
> material, but please be aware that this will adversely affect a number
> of users (actual or potential) of fedora (and no I can't tell you how
> many).
> 
> To give you a couple of scenarios for uses this will affect:
> 
> 1) Plenty of hardware being used today doesn't support booting from USB
> and doesn't have a DVD drive.  I've seen many of these machines turned
> over to using linux after grinding to a halt running other OSs.
> 
> 2) Plenty of people don't have a network conection or bandwidth cap
> which would allow them to do a live install.  Even my ADSL connection in
> the UK wouldn't be able to do this.
> 
> Anyone with a combination of problems 1 and 2 is now unable to easily
> install F13+.  Before discarding the idea of CD images all together
> would it not be worth finding out how many users this might affect?

We are not discarding CD images all together. If you feel there is a
compelling reason to continue with a Live CD, I am afraid you will have
to step up and do it.  The tools are easy enough to learn and I am
willing to help you or anyone else interested.

Rahul