DUG
Vladimir Kosovac
vnk at mkc.co.nz
Sat Dec 8 11:14:31 UTC 2007
Paul W. Frields wrote:
> On Sat, 2007-12-08 at 14:54 +0900, Marc Wiriadisastra wrote:
>>> Does installing from a DVD automatically enable the DVD as a repo? I
>>> honestly don't know, since I haven't used a DVD to install in a very
>>> long time. The act of updating a system is one area I would say
>>> deserves attention in the DUG and the AG. That area of overlap, to me,
>>> would be understandable.
>>>
>> I would assume it does since on the fedoraforum there was a severe
>> amount of complaints about having to put a cd/dvd.
>
> Before documenting it, whoever is writing that section should definitely
> confirm the behavior first.
I've tried two different installs - DVD and http, in both cases install
source ends up on the list of pre-selected repositories. If DVD install
is used and DVD not inserted post-install, pup and pirut fail until
''install media"" repo is de-selected.
Vladimir
>
>> The purpose of it is a feature since you can now upgrade the fedora version
>> using yum and a dvd which is a huge plus. The problem arises is that the
>> cd/dvd repo itself is usually enabled by default after this.
>>
>> An update fails because it can't find the cd/dvd repo since your cd/dvd
>> is not in the drive so it can't find it so the update fails.
>> That is possibly a bug however I'm not sure of the status of that bug or
>> even if it is considered a bug.
>>
>> The simplest method to fix it is disabling the repo and then voila
>> yum-updatesd works by default updating the software.
>>
>> I hope thats clear because I personally have never experienced it
>> since I've always just used yum upgrade and edited the config files manually.
>
> It is clear, but editing the configuration files manually is not the
> appropriate solution for the DUG. Instead, the documentation should
> indicate how the desktop user can use the Edit Repositories option in
> pup and pirut. Again, focus on ease of use and GUI desktop usage
> wherever possible.
>
>>>> You need to set up file-sharing which I would call desktop capability a
>>>> server set up would be an administration part. I'm not trying to be
>>>> pedantic but maybe my definition of desktop to administrator is
>>>> different.
>>> Setting up file sharing in the DUG is using System -> Preferences ->
>>> Network -> Personal File Sharing. Anything beyond that is AG material.
>>>
>> Has anyone got that to work? I've never actually got it to function
>> properly.
>
> It works if the firewall is disabled. This is not ideal, and I would
> call this a bug unless both of us are doing something very wrong. I
> thought one of the points of ConsoleKit was to be able to punch a hole
> in the firewall for personal files sharing. In the meantime, I would
> simply document the behavior indicating that the user should consult the
> AG for firewall configuration info.
>
>> I've got a lot of questions like this which is the essence of the
>> original email. Can we put together a list of what topics should be
>> covered and to what limits each category should move to. Then we have a
>> target to move towards?
>
> Unfortunately I don't have the cycles to do it, but you are welcome and
> encouraged to start such a list, and float it to the mailing list for
> discussion. I think that's a very thoughtful process, and I'm sure
> others will pitch in their ideas.
>
>
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