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00:01:38  #startmeeting Docs Project Meeting - Agenda:
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs_Project_meetings
00:01:38  Meeting started Thu Sep 24 00:01:38 2009 UTC.  The chair is
Sparks. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
00:01:38  Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic.
00:01:47  #topic Roll Call
00:01:48 * Sparks
00:02:07 * jjmcd .
00:02:56 * danielsmw
00:03:31 * ianweller kinda sorta not really
00:05:47 * Sparks gives everyone just a few more minutes
00:08:34  Okay, let's get started.
00:08:48  #topic Last week's action items
00:09:00  quaid to follow up with Richard about the use of the CC logo
on the wiki.
00:09:01  none of the action item guys are here
00:09:09  Yeah, I just realized that.
00:09:24  We'll just pass these by...
00:09:42  #topic Release notes format changes
00:09:50  jjmcd: Is there any further discussion on this?
00:09:56  what were we changing?
00:10:26  A little late, they are being built each night
00:10:34  I don't know.
00:10:42  We'll just call this topic done.
00:10:54  #topic Status on CMS (Zikula)
00:10:55  http://fedora.is-sixsigma.com/F12beta
00:11:02  Is there any update on Zikula?
00:11:25  Um, I guess I have a small one
00:11:31  danielsmw: go ahead
00:11:45  I hope I'm not being a blocker, but I'm not done with my package yet.
00:11:48  I am very close though
00:11:51  and most of the work is done
00:11:59  danielsmw: Which package?
00:12:01  what I need is a legit packager to help me out with my
packaging mistakes
00:12:04  Xinha, for Scribite!
00:12:17  #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Zikula#Module_status
00:12:26  ^^^ I don't see it on the list.  Could you add it, please?
00:12:53  danielsmw: I'm a packager but certainly not legit.
ianweller is one, though.
00:13:01  Sparks: alright
00:13:05  If he can't help you then maybe he can point you to someone who can
00:13:07  wait, should this be on this list?
00:13:14  Yes.
00:13:19  okay
00:13:23  even though it's a general package
00:13:26  and not a zikula module?
00:13:54  Well...  it's needed for Zikula, right?
00:13:56  It's just that it's _for_ zikula, which is why I brought it up now.
00:13:58  Yeah, it is
00:14:02  So I guess it goes there then.
00:14:05  I'll update the list. :)
00:14:18  TU
00:14:40  danielsmw: Do you know how much more time it will take to
get it straight?
00:14:57  if I may... I had started to package Xinha for a project of
mine (but they I abandoned as I didn't use it in the end)
00:15:18  Sparks: i really do have most of it done now, I believe.
It's just silly rpmbuild errors
00:15:27  all I remember is that it wasn't a hard package, I had it built
00:15:40  bochecha: it doesn't look that hard, I'm just no good at packaging. :)
00:15:41  danielsmw: What are the errors?
00:15:54  danielsmw, if I can help, drop me an email, I had already done it :P
00:16:09  Sparks: things like... using sources that aren't archives, and such.
00:16:12  bochecha: will do, thanks!
00:16:25  Sparks: but the main outline of what I"m doing is there.
00:16:31  danielsmw.fedorapeople.org/xinha.spec
00:17:20  danielsmw: Okay.  If I can get my head above water (maybe
this weekend) I'll be happy to look at it.  ianweller fixed so many
errors for me that I might know how to fix yours
00:17:24  might
00:17:41  Sparks: might. thanks, it looks like I'll be getting plenty of help.
00:17:47  danielsmw, if you have time tomorrow I might help, too tired tonite
00:18:08  cool
00:18:12  great
00:18:14  thanks everyone.
00:18:17  i appreciate it.
00:18:20  Anything else for zikula?
00:19:21  uh
00:19:23  I have a question
00:19:27  danielsmw: Go ahead
00:19:35 * quaid arrives back
00:19:38  On that page you told me to edit, FCKeditor is listed as
something that needs to be packaged
00:19:46 * quaid can address his item when it comes back around
00:19:47  which is basically the same thing as Xinha.
00:19:53  is there a reason they should both be done?
00:20:23  No
00:20:25  or is that just left over?
00:20:26  Not really
00:20:30  okay, i'll remove it then.
00:21:11  Okay, anything else for Zikula?
00:22:03  #topic Status on CC license rollout.
00:22:14  quaid: Were you able to follow up with Legal?
00:22:16  danielsmw: did you get hooked up with the Beacon maintainer?
00:22:19  Sparks: yes!
00:22:25  quaid: no, I forgot!
00:22:28  ironically, Richard just pointed back to spot
00:22:41  and spot knows of the problem; and there doesn't seem to be a solution
00:22:51  i.e., the CC logo(s) are not coverable by the CC-BY-SA
00:23:04  but maybe spot can explain better ...
00:23:08 * quaid forgot to ask if he'd be around
00:23:16  neither is our logo...
00:23:24  BUT, I'm good either way
00:23:44  heh, nor are other logos we might carry
00:23:50  yeah
00:24:22  spot: You around?
00:25:14  I guess not.
00:25:24  So I don't see the problem with using it.
00:25:47  And I do see a problem with using it.
00:26:00  So are we going to go with "don't use it"?
00:26:07  well, we have a clear legal guidance for don't use
00:26:13  so, for now, we don't use it.
00:26:24  I'll ask spot to explain on list, k?
00:26:40  k
00:27:08  #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/License_changeover_schedule
00:27:29  So I guess we need to make internal notifications and then
get ianweller on changing the wiki over
00:28:08  rudi's not here tonight but he was still trying to get
access to those packages so he could change the Publican brand files
over
00:28:30 * danielsmw is sneaking out early. peace.
00:28:37  danielsmw: Have a good one
00:28:46  Anything else on the license changeover?
00:29:02 * quaid is happy :)
00:29:30  #topic #
00:29:30  *
00:29:32  #topic Shared open-source style guide
00:29:47  I think this is a rudi thing, too.  Anyone have anything to
report on this?
00:30:09  well, yes
00:30:14  this was just part of something, righ?
00:30:14  quaid: Go ahead
00:30:20  do we have someone who is focusing on what is going on
00:30:25  with the upstream initiative?
00:30:26  Well....
00:30:29  writingopensource.org, right?
00:30:34  maybe
00:30:39  I don't remember now
00:30:49  I think rudi was working on getting RH to release their docs
00:31:03  right
00:31:04  I think ke4qqq was going to work on it as well
00:31:17  that is something we can contribute to the upstream effort,
or so I thought we discussed :)
00:31:27  I forget who was on-list with this item ...
00:31:36  he's a gnome.org person, iirc.
00:31:38  yeah, I think someone else had point but I don't remember who
00:31:48 * quaid looks
00:34:38  It's been so long ago I don't even remember
00:34:49  shaun mcchance?
00:34:57 * quaid having slow browser ...
00:35:50 * quaid joins http://identi.ca/group/wosdocs
00:36:19  So we need to figure out who from FP is going to work on this.
00:36:56  I think ke4qqq was interested but I don't know how much time
he has now
00:38:53  Let's take this to the list and see if we can stir up any interest
00:38:57  anything else on this?
00:39:28  #topic Guide needs?
00:39:38  Are their any guides (or RN) that need help?
00:40:13  I see some weird stuff
00:40:19  need to get w/rudi
00:40:56  okay... anything else?
00:41:36  #topic New Guides
00:41:40  Any new guides?
00:42:33  #topic All other business
00:42:46  Anyone have anything else?
00:44:32 * Sparks thinks we're going to get done early
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00:44:57  #endmeeting
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