IRC Log FDSCo Meeting 16th May 2006

Tue May 16 20:50:45 UTC 2006

(21:14:08) quaid: <meeting>
(21:14:16) quaid: megacoder said he will be late or absent, btw
(21:14:44) ***stickster will be back in 30 sec
(21:15:07) quaid: hmm
(21:15:10) BobJensen: WHo are the "active" FDSCo members at this time?
(21:15:26) BobJensen: I know some are on leave and so on
(21:15:47) quaid: me, stickster, megacoder ...
(21:16:10) ***stickster shakes head sadly
(21:16:14) quaid: ghenry keeps saying he should be considered inactive,
and he's busy enough to be so :) ... but he is usually here and with the
meeting,w hich is helpful and all that
(21:16:23) quaid: elliss is now in the same boat
(21:16:32) quaid: tcf and mrj have gone way inactive
(21:16:50) ***stickster is not disappointed in people going inactive,
just would like to see more people coming in
(21:16:52) quaid: what has happened is, we've sort of morphed
(21:17:02) ***stickster nominates BobJensen, like, DUH
(21:17:19) quaid: only, see, I thought he wasn't interested in being
tainted :)
(21:17:22) quaid: or is it too late?
(21:17:36) stickster: Heh
(21:17:38) ***quaid seconds the BobJensen nomination
(21:17:48) BobJensen: stickster: I have had that conversation with quaid
also, I did not want at that time to get in the way
(21:17:55) quaid: ha!
(21:18:00) stickster: way of... er, what? ;-D
(21:18:02) quaid: yeah, like the road gets in the way of your wheels
(21:18:09) quaid: *vroom*
(21:18:16) BobJensen: But if people are needed ten i would be willing to
accept
(21:18:17) stickster: *screech* *crash*
(21:18:20) ***quaid hopes that analogy is not misunderstood
(21:18:48) quaid: BobJensen: I think it is more of a matter of making
formal what you are doing already, i.e., are you willing to be
recognized as a leader v. being all secret about it
(21:18:49) BobJensen: Seemed to me that thngs were running well at that
time
(21:18:49) stickster: BobJensen: I'd say the meeting attendance speaks
for itself, so, YES!
(21:18:58) quaid: but not even sopwith gets to keep secret, modesty or
not
(21:19:18) ***quaid likes how stickster and quaid are a quorum :)
(21:19:19) stickster: The Extras model of voting isn't going to make any
sense for this subproject where we have less than a dozen people
seemingly involved anyway :-|
(21:19:22) quaid: dangeroux
(21:19:33) stickster: It's like being Emperor of Luxembourg
(21:19:41) quaid: ok, done deal, BobJensen is official
(21:19:52) BobJensen: K
(21:19:55) quaid: now, how about some of these other cats who do lots of
stuff and like to hang out here
(21:20:04) ***stickster can't wait for the email discussion about how
quaid is becoming despotic... over docs
(21:20:09) elliss: I'm lurking for voting purposes
(21:20:19) elliss: +1 to BobJensen
(21:20:26) quaid: +1 yeah
(21:20:30) elliss: Hope that helps :)
(21:20:34) stickster: Yeah, how about EvilBob, Bob-Laptop, and StillBob?
(21:20:35) quaid: yep
(21:20:45) BobJensen: I would llike to hear a voice from translation
(21:20:50) quaid: stickster: careful or that means we have to take on
diauq, and he's a *bastard*
(21:20:55) stickster: OK then, "Ja"
(21:21:02) ***quaid nominates Eitch 
(21:21:12) BobJensen: I would second that
(21:21:21) quaid: was thinking that before you said trans anyway, from a
pure docs perspective
(21:21:27) Eitch: O_O
(21:21:35) Eitch: I'm here
(21:21:49) ***Eitch was playing playstation (vacation rules)
(21:21:53) stickster: Eitch: Not only are you here, you're being
nominated for a FDSCo seat
(21:22:00) quaid: hi Eitch, we've been planning on growing the FDSCo
back to size again, and suddenly are doing it right now :)
(21:22:12) Eitch: hummm :)
(21:22:15) ***quaid digs up URLs
(21:22:19) quaid: Eitch: you can think about it :)
(21:22:21) ***Eitch turns his attention to the meeting
(21:22:36) quaid:
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DocsProject/SteeringCommittee
(21:22:42) stickster: Yeah, you have 24 hrs to accept the mission or
your document shreds itself
(21:22:52) quaid: <Eitch> Now, if it's going to interfere with my
playstation time ...
(21:23:02) BobJensen: Eitch: I think the board needs a voice that
understands the translation bits of our projects
(21:23:04) stickster: :-D
(21:23:11) stickster: BobJensen: +2
(21:23:20) quaid:
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DocsProject/SteeringCommittee/Charter
(21:23:32) quaid: that last one still seems relevant, but I'll review
it :)
(21:24:24) quaid: Eitch: those two pages are a good idea of the intent
of what we are doing, and you see the reality of it here on #fedora-docs
all the time :)
(21:25:31) megacoder [n=reynolds at host-216-76-237-192.hsv.bellsouth.net]
entered the room.
(21:25:49) megacoder: lo
(21:25:50) stickster: Hi megacoder
(21:25:55) ***Eitch reading
(21:26:13) megacoder: Better late than never; and I shall brook no
dissention...
(21:26:29) quaid: megacoder: we decided to hold impromptu elections,
since stickster and I were essentially a quorum by ourselves.
(21:26:29) ***stickster is getting hopelessly behind after having no
'net connection at work for the last month
(21:26:44) quaid: now, of course, we broke that by formally adding
BobJensen to the FDSCo
(21:26:54) quaid: and just extended an invite and time to think to
Eitch 
(21:26:57) stickster: we carpe'd the heck outta that diem
(21:27:09) quaid: word
(21:27:11) megacoder: suits
(21:27:31) stickster: was that invective or agreement?
(21:27:43) stickster: :-)
(21:27:45) megacoder: Have I gotten nominated for anything in my
absence?
(21:27:49) quaid: nope
(21:27:53) stickster: god of all Bash
(21:28:01) megacoder: Then it was "suits me".
(21:28:02) BobJensen: LOL
(21:28:06) quaid: but I was going to find out who I need to tackle to
help get webtest working again
(21:28:32) stickster: megacoder was looking into it w/ nman64
(21:28:39) stickster: methinks
(21:29:01) quaid: yeah, something about a proxy or masking host inside
redhat.com?
(21:29:11) megacoder: Yup. Can do no more until RH get their insipid
load-sharing bully out of the way
(21:29:18) quaid: last I heard, sopwith was the person to ask next?
(21:29:23) quaid: ah, the load-sharing
(21:29:29) megacoder: verily
(21:29:45) megacoder: One of the load-sharers ain't mirrored
(21:29:54) stickster: auggghh
(21:29:55) quaid: ok, I'll email Sopwith and find out wtf, Cc: to nman64
and megacoder 
(21:30:05) megacoder: bueno
(21:30:13) stickster: He is in my 5:00 mtg
(21:30:53) stickster: email him and I'll follow up then w/o making too
big a deal of it ;-)
(21:31:18) megacoder: Just checked; still broken
(21:32:02) quaid: email emailed
(21:32:47) Eitch: I would be glad to help with translation coordination
in Fedora Docs as a FDSCo member and any other works that I'm capable
of :)
(21:33:03) stickster: 2 fer 2, 'tis
(21:33:38) quaid: Eitch: excellent! welcome (formally)
(21:33:47) quaid: BobJensen: and thanks to you to, man
(21:33:54) quaid: too too too!
(21:34:07) Eitch: ;)
(21:34:13) BobJensen: Nothing is going to change the way I see it
(21:34:18) megacoder: Hey, if Eitch is an example of impromptu
elections, I'm gonna be late more often!
(21:34:24) quaid: "Fedora Docs, where hard work only gets you more of
the same."
(21:34:45) stickster: "FDP, where no good deed goes unpunished."
(21:34:48) quaid: BobJensen: nah, like you say, it's just same stuff
with more words.
(21:34:52) megacoder: It's pinball: if you do everything just right, you
get to do it again.
(21:34:54) BobJensen: Yup
(21:35:32) Eitch: :)
(21:35:43) Eitch: lol
(21:36:45) quaid: ok, that's enough excitement for me, I'm ready for a
npa
(21:36:47) quaid: nap
(21:36:52) quaid: oh, wait, still time left ...
(21:37:10) quaid: oic, it's time for me to "eat crow"
(21:37:35) quaid: meaning, as predicted, I do not get to fund fixes to
MoinMoin XML output from my internal project
(21:37:53) stickster: :-(
(21:37:54) quaid: otoh, we have a Summer of Code proposal we're
sponsoring for the same thing, so maybe the Universe is still OK.
(21:38:59) stickster: Did that make it onto the list under respective
deadlines? Anyone bite yet?
(21:39:08) stickster: Oh, I suppose they're still gathering/sorting
applicants...
(21:39:58) quaid: http://code.google.com/soc/fedora/open.html
(21:40:07) quaid: it's the highest on the list :)
(21:43:00) stickster: I can't read that page :-(
(21:43:18) stickster: But I'll take your word for it
(21:43:22) Eitch: me too
(21:44:10) ***stickster needs to jet shortly...
(21:44:19) quaid: oh, sorry
(21:44:42) quaid: I see nman64 already assigned me as a mentor
(21:45:03) quaid: I'll send a copy of the proposal to the list, if it's
not there
(21:45:06) BobJensen: What is the status of the RH Docs coming our way?
(21:45:40) stickster: The IG stuff was shipped to me a few days ago... I
will be looking at it to see what it's going to take to stitch it
together
(21:45:52) stickster: Other than that I think we're still on hold
(21:45:52) BobJensen: K
(21:46:49) quaid: stickster: I was going to recommend ... that you do
the work in your own SVN, then do a cvs import into cvs.fedora when you
are ready for it to be collaboratable (you've done your agreed upon
work)
(21:47:06) stickster: That would work
(21:47:08) quaid: when you do the import, include a link back to the
original SVN, so we have a breadcrumb to follow,
(21:47:27) quaid: </fin>
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