<quaid> shall we talk about http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DocsProject/SteeringCommittee/TaskSchedule? <stickster> But it's not hard for people to figure out where I am though :-) <stickster> Sure, what the hey! <quaid> or, you know, we could just slack :D <stickster> Well, we could make it short and sweet <stickster> Shall I report, mon capitan? <stickster> The FIG only needs new screenshots... still no Anacondan feedback, but I'm not expecting any at this point <stickster> I will pick up the translations from test3 this week and check in for a rebuild and post the "beta" to the Web site <quaid> http://www.linux.org/docs/ldp/howto/User-Group-HOWTO.html <stickster> quaid: I did have a question about PO files... when you get them from Trans, what exactly do you do with them? Do you overwrite your existing checkout and checkin the new ones? <quaid> actually, SinghA has been doing it, and that is what I think he does <quaid> the versioning is in CVS, so you can just overwrite the local copy with impugnity <quaid> when is/did test three drop(ping)? <stickster> Oh, OK. I will simply send a message to Trans on Friday to have this done. There was a delay from the last drop since someone munged the PO with CR/LF <stickster> I did it on the target date, or the day after, but with that problem, it didn't get put in by aalam until 9/15 <stickster> I want to give them a week at least... the changes should be minimal from there to final <stickster> We'll make sure the next one is golen <stickster> *golden <quaid> ok <stickster> I'm going to spend part of tonight beefing up my calendar, but we really should see if Plone has a way for us to share calendar information for TODOs and other targets <stickster> *sigh* <stickster> Need more time in the day, or to figure out a way to get a job as caddy for Max :-D <quaid> .ics? <stickster> Right <quaid> there ya go <quaid> so, f13 isn't around to ask ... <stickster> Right <quaid> 'sup with test3 release date? <stickster> Errr... uh? <stickster> You mean final? <quaid> oh, sorry, have I been asleep? * quaid is sure he is sub'd to f-announce-l <stickster> test3 released on last Thurs <stickster> Right now we are go for the schedule as posted on http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Core/Schedule --> alam (n=aalam 59 94 210 3) has joined #fedora-docs <stickster> So are docs target dates AFAIK <stickster> So we'll end up about 9-10 days behind for test3 posting FIG, but we will make schedule for final <quaid> ok <stickster> I spent a bunch of time working on revamping the packaging for release-notes... now works like it _should_ <stickster> I.e. no unnecessary building * quaid has been busy with his Application Stack related duties for the last two weeks <quaid> so I need to get the DUG announced, too <stickster> Understood, took a quick look last night at the front page <stickster> I have one AOB <-- alam has quit (Remote closed the connection) <quaid> aye? <stickster> DocG... I would like to take up drafting this on the wiki, I think <stickster> As evil-twin as that sounds from me * quaid falls off his chair <quaid> good thing I was standing up already! <stickster> I mean, not *just* me, but I think we ought to just work on it there, publicly <quaid> no, this would be a good test for the docbook -> wiki :) <quaid> and let us easily incorporate the wiki stuff right into it <stickster> Yeah, and it's just not getting enough traction given the long toolchain for DocBook -> build -> publish right now <stickster> Even if I was to actually complete major sections of it, the toolchain is in flux often enough that it's easier to fix the wiki than to do it the other way * stickster is just being practical, he thinks <-- singh has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) <quaid> :) <quaid> what is the new target date for the FIG? <stickster> Well, as written on the wiki currently still works for me... i.e. freeze 28 Sep and go on from there <stickster> oops, freeze 27 <stickster> then POT to Trans on 28th <quaid> sorry, i mean for test3? <stickster> Oh, sorry * stickster is often confused and not responsible for his words <quaid> aye <stickster> test3, I will ask for PO back from Trans on the night of the 21st (22nd UTC) and publish it ASAP after that <stickster> let's say 9/24 <stickster> (But probably closer to 9/22 or 9/23) --> snowlet (i=snowlet nat/redhat/x-64b8951bed96281e) has joined #fedora-docs <quaid> ok <quaid> stickster: so, packaging is "just right" now? <stickster> It is very possible that there will be _no_ changes in the text for final, which means we'll be ahead of the game <quaid> here is the /wiki blurb <quaid> Packaging is now ''Just Right''; we are working on more changes for the contents of that package, and a new fedora-release-faq based on the [:FAQ:Fedora FAQ] ''may'' be in the works following FC6; we are going to push new docs packages into Extras and make a group of packages available, now useful even during install. Working on new default Web browser home page to replace release notes; aka Splash, see next item. <stickster> Can we say 95% Just Right? <stickster> :-) <stickster> I am antsy about it but that's because I'm, well, just antsy. * stickster dithers hopelessly <stickster> I need to get a hold of glezos to see if he has tried his style sheet from a HTML build of the XML-version splash source I wrote and posted for him to try <quaid> ok <stickster> I wrote DocBook XML for that page, but I may not have given him enough info to work on it against his CSS <quaid> ah, there's the announcement, on f-devel-l <stickster> megacoder has written some cool script-fu to autoload the right language HTML page into the browser <quaid> guess we don't want the genpop at it? <stickster> genpop? <stickster> general population <stickster> it ==? <quaid> yes <quaid> anyway, sorry, that was an aside <quaid> I was on my way down to f-docs-l and saw that :) <stickster> oh, FC6t3 <quaid> sorry * stickster needs to be ignored, hard <quaid> ok, so glezos update is, ready to move to XML? <quaid> and other stuff <quaid> I was going to follow-up with f-artwork but didn't <quaid> he didn't get a reply <stickster> Yeah, he got some this week <stickster> I read it on the list... at least Mairin did IIRC <stickster> A few of the mockups looked very elegant IMHO <stickster> Yup, I see much discussion from yesterday and today on f-artwork-l <stickster> quaid: Sorry, I got lured into reading :-) <quaid> ok, good <stickster> What is our next step for Splash then? <stickster> Should I contact Dim and give him explicit instructions for how to test an easy module build using our XML -> HTML toolchain, to make sure his CSS sticks properly? <quaid> final review version is due tomorrow <quaid> package changes for it are done? <stickster> No, not yet <quaid> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DocsProject/Schedule#splash-page-schedule <stickster> But those changes depend on how we're going to fit the pieces together <quaid> stickster: yes, that sounds like a good thing, or at least ask if he knows the steps and outline them <quaid> ok * stickster unhappily found out that the XSLT for labeling @id attributes on HTML doesn't work like it should <stickster> Otherwise, it would have been done already :_( <quaid> mainly I wanted an early enough date for you to be comfie with <stickster> I can live with it :-) <quaid> ok <stickster> I will email him tonight * stickster did it again <stickster> OK... I guess that's good for tonight, right? <quaid> yes <quaid> sorry, been in dinner land for the last few minutes <stickster> It's OK <quaid> (cooking) <stickster> I'm not as efficient as you RH guys <quaid> ok <quaid> <meeting/> -- Karsten Wade, RHCE, 108 Editor ^ Fedora Documentation Project Sr. Developer Relations Mgr. | fedoraproject.org/wiki/DocsProject quaid.108.redhat.com | gpg key: AD0E0C41 ////////////////////////////////// \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\
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