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Re: Review request: syslog-ng (syslog replacement daemon)



> On Sat, 7 May 2005 19:13:33 +0100 (WEST), Jose Pedro Oliveira wrote:
>
>> > On Sat, 7 May 2005 08:22:37 -0400 (EDT), Chris Ricker wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Sat, 7 May 2005, José Pedro Oliveira wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >   * Changes a file from another package
>> >> >     (/etc/logrotate.d/syslog from the sysklogd rpm)
>> >>
>> >> I know people (with good reason!) try to avoid using alternatives,
>> but
>> >> isn't this a good case to use them?
>> >
>> > Unless we continue with discussion of the old "Fedora Alternatives"
>> > concept, a package that changes a file from another package and even
>> stops
>> > Core's syslog service in its scriptlets, sounds very much like it's
>> > unacceptable.
>>
>> How do we re-open the "Fedora Alternatives"?
>>
>> I really would like to see syslog-ng as an alternative to sysklogd, and
>> unless there is an Fedora Alternative policy I will never see syslog-ng
>> package approved (logrotate problem, stopping the syslogd daemon in
>> %post scripts).  Marking syslog-ng as confliting with sysklogd doesn't
>> solve the problem. People will have to remove sysklog with the --nodeps
>> option before installing syslog-ng.
>>
>> jpo
>>
>> PS - Is there an archive of old "Fedora Alternatives" discussion?
>
> There used to be a rough definition of "Fedora Alternatives" below the
> definition of "Fedora Extras" on the fedora.redhat.com "Terminology"
> page. It described a package class which would make it possible to replace
> packages from Fedora Core with packages which offer similar
> functionality. It has been decided to focus on Core and Extras. And Extras
> must not conflict with Core.
>
> I consider the syslog-ng package in its present form, with scriptlets
> which stop Core's syslog and start (!) syslog-ng right after package
> installation, a conflict with Core. Installation must not do that IMO.

That can be fixed. But the main problem still remains:
the logrotate file conflict.

jpo
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