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Meeting Log - 2009-03-19



20:00 -!- mmcgrath changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Infrastructure -- Who's here
20:00 < mmcgrath> Ok all, time to get started, who's here for the infrastructure meeting?
20:00  * ricky 
20:00  * jds2001 
20:01  * ke4qqq 
20:01  * abadger1999 here
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20:02 < meyering> mmcgrath: I'm here ;-)
20:02 < mmcgrath> k, lets get started
20:02 < ranjith> here
20:02 -!- mmcgrath changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Infrastructure -- Tickets
20:02 < mmcgrath> .tiny https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/query?status=new&status=assigned&status=reopened&group=milestone&keywords=~Meeting&order=priority
20:02 < zodbot> mmcgrath: http://tinyurl.com/47e37y
20:02 < mmcgrath> meyering: yo
20:02 < mmcgrath> kanarip: you around?
20:02 < mmcgrath> .ticket 1203
20:02 < zodbot> mmcgrath: #1203 (RFR: x86_64 host for composing spins) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1203
20:02 < kanarip> yes
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20:02 < mmcgrath> kanarip: so what's the scoop on this?
20:03 < mmcgrath> what is the planned use for this server and what gets spun on it?
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20:03 < kanarip> we require resources for spin maintainers to see whether their spins fail or succeed composing, and additional details
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20:03 < mmcgrath> so it won't really have any sustained local storage?  Just a sort of cache?
20:03 < mmcgrath> IE: we won't have to run backups on it?
20:03 < kanarip> basically, our plan is to create the spins, and get the logfiles somewhere public
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20:04 < kanarip> mmcgrath, yes, no backup required
20:04 < kanarip> we grab livecd-tools, we grab spin-kickstarts, give it a spin and copy the log files somewhere, then destroy everything
20:04 < kanarip> "everything"; not the machine itself of course ;-)
20:04 < mmcgrath> kanarip: so you guys will just log in via ssh, someone will $run_script, and the results will get placed somewhere that is easily readable to the spin owner?
20:05 < kanarip> yes
20:05 < mmcgrath> I really don't see any blockers from my end other then the one listed in the ticket.
20:05 < jds2001> an installable rawhide would be nice :)
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20:05 < mmcgrath> I'm not sure wtf is up with our physical hosts but after moving to 5.3, none of them can virt-install fedora anymore.
20:05  * kanarip goes to check the ticket
20:06 < mmcgrath> But that's all on our end, just going to delay getting this box up and running unfortunately.
20:06 < kanarip> ok
20:06 < kanarip> thanks!
20:06 < mmcgrath> kanarip: is there a pre-existing group that we can use in FAS or should I create a sysadmin-spins group or something?
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20:07 < kanarip> i think gitspin-kickstarts is a little to broad, so a new group seems most appropriate
20:07 < mmcgrath> I guess these guys aren't really sysadmins, they're just consumers of this box.
20:07 < mmcgrath> kanarip: k, we'll just create a new "spinners" group or something.
20:07 < kanarip> perfect
20:07 < mmcgrath> kanarip: I take it you're the admin of that group?
20:08 < kanarip> yes
20:08 < mmcgrath> is there a "must have" by date?
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20:09 < kanarip> mmcgrath, not really, but we'd love to have it before the F12 development cycle starts
20:09 < kanarip> ;-)
20:09 < mmcgrath> k.  I need to hunker down and figure out why the virt-installs are failing anyway.
20:09 < mmcgrath> So that's really all the tickets we have listed right now.
20:10 -!- mmcgrath changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Infrastructure -- Beta Launch
20:10 < mmcgrath> https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/report/9
20:10 < mmcgrath> I'll go through these ticket by ticket
20:10 < mmcgrath> .ticket 1250
20:10 < zodbot> mmcgrath: #1250 (Website) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1250
20:10 < mmcgrath> ricky: you all set for website stuff?
20:10 < ricky> Yup
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20:10 < mmcgrath> Are you going to do the website launch or will you be disposed on release morning?
20:10 < ricky> f13 warned me about checksum filename changes, so that's the biggest change other than the get-prerelease page
20:11 < mmcgrath> and we have the banner ready?
20:11 < ricky> Hm, if it's a Tuesday, I probably won't be around in the morning
20:11 < ricky> Yup, the art team has sent us a banner
20:11 < mmcgrath> k
20:11  * SmootherFrOgZ here
20:12 < mmcgrath> ricky: go ahead and accept that ticket so we know who's got it.
20:12 < mmcgrath> .ticket 1251
20:12 < mmcgrath> this one's all but done.
20:12 < zodbot> mmcgrath: #1251 (We need to verify Mirror Space for the F11 release) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1251
20:12 < mmcgrath> I need to verify the updates/testing 7/8 content is deleted and good to go.
20:12 < mmcgrath> I'll probably close that right after the meeting
20:12 < mmcgrath> .ticket 1252
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20:12 < zodbot> mmcgrath: #1252 (Release Day Ticket - F11 beta) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1252
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20:12 < mmcgrath> That's just the release day ticket, I'll close it when we're all done.
20:12 < mmcgrath> .ticket 1253
20:12 < zodbot> mmcgrath: #1253 (Mirror Manager Redirects) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1253
20:13 < mmcgrath> domsch did this earlier in the week, it's closed already.
20:13 < mmcgrath> .ticket 1254
20:13 < zodbot> mmcgrath: #1254 (Infrastructure Change Freeze) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1254
20:13 < mmcgrath> The change freeze has been in place.
20:13 < mmcgrath> Aside from transifex it's been very quiet and good.
20:13 < mmcgrath> and even with transifex things have been well, I think that team is happy with the work and have started using it.
20:13 < mmcgrath> .ticket 1255
20:13 < zodbot> mmcgrath: #1255 (Add new release to Mirror Manager) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1255
20:14 < mmcgrath> This should be automatic.  I seem to remember it not being in the past though, we'll have to watch it on release day
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20:14 < mmcgrath> So really that's it for the release.
20:14 < mmcgrath> I'm going to try to do the mirror-rediness test again like I did for the alpha
20:14 < ricky> Hm, how much of the fullfilelist work has been done so that we can have less of a mirror sync delay?
20:14  * mmcgrath gets those notes
20:14 < mmcgrath> ricky: I know some of it has been done, i'm not sure how much.
20:15 < mmcgrath> I don't believe it's ready for the beta though
20:15 < mmcgrath> .any mdomsch
20:15 < zodbot> mmcgrath: mdomsch was last seen in #fedora-meeting 20 hours, 11 minutes, and 16 seconds ago: *** mdomsch has quit IRC ("Leaving")
20:15 < ricky> Ah, OK
20:15 < mmcgrath> http://mmcgrath.fedorapeople.org/alphaMirrorRediness.html
20:15 < mmcgrath> here's how it went last time.
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20:15 < mmcgrath> with hour 1 being the hour prior to release.
20:16 < mmcgrath> f13: have you talked to mdomsch in a while about the file lists change to make the mirrors sync faster?
20:16 < f13> no
20:16 < mmcgrath> k, i'm going to check the tickets and open one if it doesn't exist so we don't forget about it.
20:17 < mmcgrath> f13: what are our odds for a release on the 24th?
20:17 < mmcgrath> 90%?  :)
20:18 < f13> 10%
20:18 < mmcgrath> ouch.
20:18 < mmcgrath> if we do slip, will it target one week later?
20:18 < mmcgrath> is it the anaconda storage stuff?
20:19 < f13> we're discussing it right now on the side, I odn't have full details/plans yet
20:19 < f13> but 99% certain there will be a slip, either a 2 day or 7 day slip
20:19 < mmcgrath> k.
20:19 < mmcgrath> <nod>
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20:20 < mmcgrath> So anyone have any questions about the beta release?
20:20 < ggruener> we get a new wiki site to test like the alpha-release?
20:21 < mmcgrath> ggruener: I believe the QA team will have that page up yes.
20:21 < ggruener> ah ok
20:21 < mmcgrath> ggruener: I'll make sure to send it to the fil when it's up.
20:22 < mmcgrath> K
20:22 < mmcgrath> so next item
20:22 -!- mmcgrath changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Infrastructure -- Wiki
20:22 < mmcgrath> So EPEL went up to 1.14.x for mediawiki.
20:22 < mmcgrath> we're going to have to upgrade soon.
20:22 < mmcgrath> Jose did some tests yesterday and it looks like it'll be painless.
20:22 < mmcgrath> I'm going to wait until after the beta to put it in though.
20:22 < mmcgrath> any questions / concerns on that?
20:23 < mmcgrath> k
20:23 -!- mmcgrath changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Infrastructure -- Cloud
20:23 < mmcgrath> So our cloud stuff is coming along, it seems all of our network stuff is configured.
20:23 < mmcgrath> the problem?  Our cyclades stopped responding at some point between when it was installed and now.
20:23 < mmcgrath> I've got a ticket open and my understanding is they're working to get remote hands in place to figure out what's goin gon.
20:24 < mmcgrath> If we can't get it working by monday, it'll likely be another week before our tech gets back on site
20:24 < mmcgrath> he'll be traveling to Raleigh
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20:24 < mmcgrath> So that's really all I have on that
20:24 -!- mmcgrath changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Infrastructure -- Open Floor
20:24 < mmcgrath> anyone have anything else they'd like to discuss?
20:25 < jds2001> .ticket 1279
20:25 < zodbot> jds2001: #1279 (FAS integration with Freemedia TRAC.) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1279
20:25 < jds2001> so we need some policy about when we'll do this.
20:25 < jds2001> I'm going to experiment with doing it with mod_auth_postgres, but that's not really scalable.
20:25 < mmcgrath> jds2001: I'm fine with doing it whenever, AFAIK their shipping for the month is currently closed.
20:26 < mmcgrath> jds2001: define scalable.
20:26 < jds2001> no, I mean for what other projects :)
20:26 < mmcgrath> oh
20:26 < mmcgrath> well, as far as I'm concerned, freemedia got grandfathered in.
20:26 < ricky> We should be making things private very very rarely, I'd hope
20:26 < jds2001> i.e. project X sees we did this and asks tomorrow.
20:26 < mmcgrath> jds2001: I'm fine taking the heat on that and just saying "no, we won't"
20:26 < mmcgrath> We can take it on a case by case basis.
20:27 < jds2001> sounds reasonable.
20:27 < mmcgrath> but AFAIK, no other projects are storing private data that would be covered by our privacy policy.
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20:27 < jds2001> famna and famsco do, but they're using the private tickets plugin
20:27 < mmcgrath> jds2001: do they maintain all of that via trac directly?
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20:28 < jds2001> I packaged up the private tickets plugin for them and edited trac.ini
20:28 < jds2001> but other than that, they maintain it via trac.
20:28 < mmcgrath> k
20:29 < jds2001> but freemedia is a tad...larger :)
20:29 < mmcgrath> yeah
20:29 < mmcgrath> jds2001: thanks for taking a look at that ticket.  Let me know if you want any help testing it.
20:29 < jds2001> cool, I'll probably work on hosted2 to start.
20:30 < mmcgrath> excellent
20:30 < mmcgrath> anyone have anything else?  If not we'll close the meeting early today
20:31 < mmcgrath> ok, sounds good then we'll close in 30
20:32 < mmcgrath> 10
20:32 -!- mmcgrath changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Infrastructure -- Meeting Closed

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