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Re: State of 7.2/8.0 in Fedora Legacy



Right. At $2500/month you could hire a couple of gradual students to comb 
the lists for for you. 8)

My point is that Fedora Legacy can fill the gap. It needs to be more 
timely, though. One of the ways to make it so is to drop releases for 
which there are fewer installed systems. Do you run a lot of 7.2 or 8.0 
systems? How many?

I'm hypothesizing on the basis of a couple of givens: that there are fewer 
7.2 and 8.0 systems in use than 7.3 and 9, and that the installed base 
ratio is similar among organizations that have too many servers to be able 
to afford Progeny. If that's true, then the hypothesis is that dropping 
7.2 and 8.0 will save more of those organizations money than if the 
project bogs down and can't deliver timely support for *any* distribution.



On Thu, 20 May 2004, David Botsch wrote:

> So, what are some of these other services? We would certainly like to know.
> 
> We're one of the places where keeping all our stuff up at either Progeny's
> $5/machine/month or their $2500/month unlimited is just too much money
> (and they were absolutely unwilling to negotiate any type of academic rate).
> 
> For my home systems, I definitely might consider them, however.
> 
> On Thu, May 20, 2004 at 03:03:37PM -0700, Howard B Owen wrote:
> > There are very economical commercial patch services for legacy systems.
> > If it's one server, five bucks a month (six month minimum) will get you
> > Progeny Transition Service support. (http://transition.progeny.com) If
> > you are planning to upgrade after the spring quarter, it sounds like all
> > you would need would be sixty bucks.
> > 
> > That's another thing to consider when thinking about support by Fedora
> > Legacy for less popular releases. There are commercial services at very
> > reasonable prices that can take up the slack. Where it gets unreasonable
> > for an organization with limited resources is when there are hundreds of
> > servers. If the budget is there, Progenys price of $2500/month for
> > unlimited servers is pretty reasonable. But academic departments, or
> > medium to large organizations outside Europe/Asia/North America probably
> > can't even consider a quarter of that cost.
> > 
> > The point is, the more popular releases are more likely to be deployed
> > on a larger number of servers. Apart from the project resource issues,
> > concentrating on the releases with a greater installed base may provide
> > most of the value in places where money is tight.
> > 
> > On Thu, 2004-05-20 at 11:55, Paul Heinlein wrote:
> > > On Thu, 20 May 2004, Eric Rostetter wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Quoting Stuart Low <stuart serverpeak com>:
> > > >
> > > >> As for RH8.. :) Why anyone would run it is beyond me and upgrading 
> > > >> to RH9 is painless too (even remotely). :)
> > > >
> > > > I run it on a server.
> > > 
> > > I do, too. It provides Mailman, SquirrelMail, LDAP, NTP, and Squid 
> > > services for a few hundred users. I've got it slated for a summertime 
> > > upgrade, but it's a nonstarter to suggest bringing it down during the 
> > > academic year.
> > > 
> > > --Paul Heinlein <heinlein cse ogi edu>
> > > 
> > > 
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