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Re: lwn article on the death of Fedora Legacy



On Thursday 19 October 2006 12:00, Jesse Keating wrote:
>On Thursday 19 October 2006 11:44, Matthew Miller wrote:
>> When Jesse Keating worked at Pogo, that was largely true, but with his
>> duties at RH and with his new kid, it doesn't seem to be the case
>> anymore. I'm sure this is not Jesse's fault -- there needs to be
>> commitment from above, and that's clearly not the case.
>>
>> I think this is really unfortunate, because it makes a big gap in the
>> Fedora ecosystem. This will be largely filled by migration to
>> RHEL-rebuild distros like CentOS, which is well and good (and
>> particularly painless from the end-user point of few) but bad for
>> Fedora.
>>
>> Without a functioning lifespan of over a year, Fedora is only
>> practically useful as an enthusiast, bleeding-edge distro. That's only
>> supposed to be _part_ of its mission.
>
>Here is what I think can happen.
>
>A) Kill off RHL now.  Stop trying to do stuff there when we just don't
> have the man power or the volunteers.
>
>B) Move to using Extras infrastructure for building packages.  They're
> ready for us for FC3 and FC4.
>
>C) Move to Core style updates process.  Spin a possible update, toss it
>in -testing.  If nobody says boo after a period of time, release the darn
>thing.  If somebody finds it to be broken, fix it and resubmit.
>
>Somewhere in there convince Luke Macken to do the work to get a Fedora
> Update tool available for use externally that does the boring stuff like
> generate the email with the checksums and with the subpackage list and
> all that boring stuff.  It could even handle moving the bug to
> 'MODIFIED' when it goes in updates-testing, and finally to CLOSED when
> it goes to release.  Then it would be easier to get people to
> contribute, as they'd just be doing things like checking out a package
> module, copying a patch from somewhere, commit, build.  That would help
> a lot.  Somebody more "senior" in the project would fiddle with the tool
> to prepare the update, and do the sign+push.
>
>I honestly think that doing these things is the only way that Legacy will
>survive.

You make too much sense for this to ever happen, Jesse, and you know it.

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