Is Linux always so frustating^

Brian Chase networkr0 at cfl.rr.com
Thu Apr 8 07:20:00 UTC 2004


nice summary, many points agreed with...

Jay Daniels wrote:

> Everyone has their complaints.  However, even Microsoft is trying to
> break away from the so-called drive C: computing era.
> 
> As far as I am concerned, Linux does not have drive c: computing,
> nor program activation!  A big + plus in my book.
> 
> Yes Fedora has it's bugs but I find it no more buggy than SUSE or the
> RedHat versions I purchased which I was really mad about too.
> 
> I like Bluefish for what it's worth, but it doesn't compare to
> Dreamweaver.  If you think about it, most people I know who use
> dreamweaver are actually criminals.  They run keygens and cracks and
> use illegal software.  Why not just use open source programs and not
> worry about purchasing licenses?  Even the programs that are not free
> in Linux are 100's of dollars cheaper than their Windows counterparts.
> 
> Windows didn't come with Macromedia Dreamweaver either!
> Windows does not come with a decent GUI Ftp program!
> Windows doesn't have a good image editor!
> Windows does not have ssh!
> Windows does not come with a c/c++ compiler - that's $1000 extra!
> Windows XP has .zip support, but what about all the other archive formats?
>   You still need an archive program in Windows.
> 
> Purchasing MS Plus for Windows does not get you themes, except from
> Microsoft!  To get themes to work correctly in XP you have to install
> a cheap hack. Total waste of money for MS Plus.
> 
> In fact, everything you like about windows it doesn't have.  You must
> install those programs afterwards and most are not free.
> 
> My biggest complaint about Windows
> I hate the way the filesystem, directories, and OS including the
> registry are layed out.  I am actually more productive using the bash
> shell in Linux than using the windows interface and mouse.  But I do
> like X and Gnome apps, plus good linux distro's come with just about
> all you need.
> 
> As far as I know, Linux does not have a registry like Windows.  The
> kernel has something called the /proc directory were you can control the
> running kernel. You can see I'm no Linux expert, but I can use this OS
> and these programs a lot easier than in Windows.  Linux programs use
> simple config files which are plain text files - something I can
> actually understand.
> 
> note:  most people who have used Microsoft Windows for years, don't
> know shit about it!  they trash their system or it crashes and they
> attempt to reinstall or start replacing parts and lose all their
> data. 
> 
> Windows is the most unsafe operating system I have ever used.  I have
> lost many files over the years using various versions of Windows
> including XP Pro.  Yes, I said it, Windows is unsafe meaning it's not
> reliable.
> 
> Take a fraction of the money you would have spent on Windows and
> commerical programs that run on Windows and you can buy a lot of books
> and new hardware!  With Microsoft it's all about selling and getting
> your money.  The people who develop programs to run on Windows are
> following the leader to make MONEY OFF YOU!
> 
> Well, I'm all out of time and money;)
> 
> good luck,
> 
> 
> jay
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, Apr 08, 2004 at 04:17:11AM +0200, Chadley Wilson wrote:
> 
>>On Thu, 2004-04-08 at 03:59, Dave Smith wrote:
>>
>>>There's a learning curve that you just have to stick with if you want
>>>the advantages of OpenSource software. 
>>>
>>>Dave
>>>
>>>On Wed, 2004-04-07 at 12:16, pinco wrote: 
>>>
>>>>Hi,
>>>>perhaps this message will irritate all of you, that's not my intention, 
>>>>so I beg your pardon if it does.
>>
>>Relax, we aren't monsters, we just ask that you do some reading which
>>will assist you in your learning curve andhelp you on your new
>>adventure.
>>
>>
>>>>I don't think I lack of experience in computer matters, even if I'm not 
>>>>an expert (see my homepage), but I'm really frustrated with Linux (Fedora).
>>>>
>>
>>Not many experts around here, most of ask questions, and the experts
>>help
>>And they are great.
>>
>>
>>>>Since I'm not happy with MS policy I'm trying to switch to Linux, but 
>>>>until now very few programs I succeeded to install without wasting a lot 
>>>>of time and even so I didn't succeed.
>>
>>Well your not the first to find fault and unhappiness with MS
>>
>>>>I'm happy with OpenOffice, very happy with Audacity (which I discoverd 
>>>>thanks to this list), but what else?
>>>>
>>>>In these days I tried a substitue to FrontPage, but I failed to install 
>>>>Quanta!
>>
>>Quanta is really for a hard coder in Html Css PHP Java etc
>>If you want wysiwyg then use Open Office as your front end for layout
>>and quick content, and quanta to clean up the code and do some advanced
>>coding.
>>I must admit that both screem and bluefish work better for me, both have
>>auto-complete tags which is irritating at times when you add a closing
>>tag that already put there for U.
>>It even has an image map tool Pretty cool.
>>It has a css wizard thing never really played with it prefer cssed from
>>freshmeat myself.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>> (I'm a newbie, 
>>
>>Most people are always Nubies don't let that bug you.
>>
>>>>but I don't have any problems with installing and 
>>>>even coding on Windows.
>>
>>Well thats because its like rowing in your swimming pool, where as linux
>>is raging river of options, obstacles and adventure.
>>Beside the Linux fellows are mich nicer than the windows lot. 
>>
>>>> Besides I've read in a mailing list that it 
>>>>crashes with Fedora Core 1). NVU is more o less a HTML editor. So I 
>>>>didn't succeed to find a substiture!
>>>>
>>
>>I also tried NVU with no luck, we will have to wait for FC2. They are
>>actually building it for that.
>>
>>
>>
>>>>Why am I failing to switch to Linux?
>>>>
>>>>Please, pay attention to the fact that I'm asking help,  don't insult 
>>>>me... if you can :)
>>>>
>>
>>Your are not failing, think of it as your biggest adventure and remember
>>we are here to help, There are some on the list with a lot of impatience
>>just ignor them and go with those who want to help you.
>>
>>ps as long you don't crap on us for your difficulties we will always do
>>our best to help you. After all we didnt make linux we use it. The
>>makers of FC can be found on the devel list if you really feel your big
>>enough to take them on!
>>Anyway have cool coding day.
>>My site it far from finished but is starting to look very good. I using
>>straight forward html and css. Its really just an info site for internal
>>use. Stats, staff and all that.
>>
>>Cheers
>>
>> 
>>Chadley - Linux Rocks
>>Welcome to my world.
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