fedora-list digest, Vol 1 #856 - 31 msgs

Ed epugh1 at nycap.rr.com
Thu Jan 22 23:36:57 UTC 2004


You need to get the package with xft support.  The package that appears most
readily does not have it.  You will have to look around the downloadpage for
it.
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> Today's Topics:
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>    1. Re: Testing new software (Telmo Silva)
>    2. Re: Acrobat Reader 8 not working in FC1 (John Rehmert)
>    3. RE: Acrobat Reader 8 not working in FC1 (John Rehmert)
>    4. Re: Compilation general question -- FC1 in production (Justin
Churchey)
>    5. Re: help configuring spam assassin (Stephen Walton)
>    6. Re: samba file server slow (Dennis Gilmore)
>    7. Re: samba file server slow (Robin Laing)
>    8. Re: Acrobat Reader 8 not working in FC1 (Chris Adams)
>    9. Re: Apt built against rpm 4.3? (Panu Matilainen)
>   10. Install Mozilla plugin (Telmo Silva)
>   11. RE: RWyse60 Terminal Interface (David L Norris)
>   12. Re: Install Mozilla plugin (Justin Churchey)
>   13. Re: installing grub fails (Rick Stevens)
>   14. Re: upgrading to fedora core 2 (STYMA, ROBERT E (ROBERT))
>   15. Re: Install Mozilla plugin (don)
>   16. Re: Install Mozilla plugin (Christoph Wickert)
>   17. Re: RWyse60 Terminal Interface (Leonard den Ottolander)
>   18. Re: installing grub fails (Rick Stevens)
>   19. Re: Install Mozilla plugin (Mike Frisch)
>   20. kernel 2.6.1+Nvidia twinview+fedora (of course) problem (Sergiu
Giurgiu)
>   21. RE: Acrobat Reader 8 not working in FC1 (Ko Pu)
>   22. Re: Install Mozilla plugin (WA9ALS - John)
>   23. RE: RWyse60 Terminal Interface (Brian Fahrlander)
>   24. Re: problem removing Mozilla 1.4 which came with FC1 (Jeff Allison)
>   25. Re: Install Mozilla plugin (Christoph Wickert)
>   26. Re: Replacement for XMMS? (Stephan Schutter)
>   27. Re: Install Mozilla plugin (Keith)
>   28. Re: Acrobat Reader 8 not working in FC1 (Keith)
>   29. Re: Install Mozilla plugin (Keith)
>   30. Default Moz install: Pretty, custom built: jaggy (Sean Kennedy)
>   31. performance tuning -- application start-up time (Fred Nastos)
>
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> Message: 1
> From: Telmo Silva <tsilva at zmail.pt>
> To: fedora-list at redhat.com
> Subject: Re: Testing new software
> Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 21:05:17 +0000
> Reply-To: fedora-list at redhat.com
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> Hi,
>
> you can had an entry like
>
> [updates-testing]
> name=Fedora Core $releasever - $basearch - Unreleased Updates
> baseurl=http://fedora.redhat.com/updates/testing/fedora-core-$releasever
>
> I think this should work!
>
>
> Em Quinta 22 Janeiro 2004 20:56, o John Wendel escreveu:
> > I've got a shiny new box that I'd like to use for testing the latest
> > bleeding edge stuff.
> >
> > Can someone tell me what to add to yum.conf so it gets the test
> > packages.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > John
>
> - -- 
> Telmo Silva
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> Message: 2
> Subject: Re: Acrobat Reader 8 not working in FC1
> From: John Rehmert <john.rehmert at speakeasy.net>
> To: fedora-list at redhat.com
> Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 16:04:48 -0500
> Reply-To: fedora-list at redhat.com
>
> On Thu, 2004-01-22 at 14:47, Chris Adams wrote:
> > Once upon a time, john.rehmert at speakeasy.net
<john.rehmert at speakeasy.net> said:
> > > Is there a reason you're not using xpdf (X PDF Viewer) or gpdf (GNOME
PDF
> > > Viewer)?
> >
> > Maybe because they aren't all that good at reading PDFs, especially
> > compared to Adobe Acrobat Reader?  Last time I checked, xpdf doesn't
> > have the form fill-out capability.  It also doesn't render near as
> > nicely as acroread (which makes reading harder on the eyes) and doesn't
> > support rotating the page.
> >
> > -- 
> > Chris Adams <cmadams at hiwaay.net>
> > Systems and Network Administrator - HiWAAY Internet Services
> > I don't speak for anybody but myself - that's enough trouble.
> >
> Thanks for expressing your opinion, but I was asking Ko Pu for reasons
> for not using xpdf and/or gpdf.  If there aren't any compelling reasons,
> then xpdf and/or gpdf are great alternatives.
>
> - John
>
>
>
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> Message: 3
> Subject: RE: Acrobat Reader 8 not working in FC1
> From: John Rehmert <john.rehmert at speakeasy.net>
> To: fedora-list at redhat.com
> Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 16:06:01 -0500
> Reply-To: fedora-list at redhat.com
>
> On Thu, 2004-01-22 at 14:47, Stephen Walton wrote:
> > On Thu, 2004-01-22 at 11:31, john.rehmert at speakeasy.net wrote:
> >
> > > Is there a reason you're not using xpdf (X PDF Viewer) or gpdf (GNOME
PDF
> > > Viewer)?
> >
> > I don't pretend to speak for the original poster, but a partial list for
> > me would include searching, bookmarks, and thumbnails, all of which are
> > in Acroread but not in XPDF or gpdf.
> >
> Those would definitely be compelling reasons for installing Acrobat
> Reader.  If Ko needs those, then xpdf and gpdf are not even viable
> options.
>
> - John
>
>
>
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>
> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 13:08:56 -0800 (PST)
> From: Justin Churchey <sajchurchey at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: Compilation general question -- FC1 in production
> To: fedora-list at redhat.com
> Reply-To: fedora-list at redhat.com
>
> To answer your questions,
>
> Yes, both the CPU and the OS are important when
> compiling source code (C/C++).  It is insignificant
> with interpreted languages, like python, and Java.
> The number of CPUs only comes into play if you write
> SMP compatible software in the first place.
>
> I know for a fact that Windows-compiled binaries will
> not work in Linux and vice versa, but I'm not sure
> about using the same binaries across different Linux
> and other *nix machines.
>
> Check the information on your compiler, it may be
> possible to compile source code to a different CPU/OS.
>
>
> =====
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>
> Justin Churchey
>
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> Message: 5
> Subject: Re: help configuring spam assassin
> From: Stephen Walton <stephen.walton at csun.edu>
> To: fedora-list at redhat.com
> Organization: Dept. of Physics & Astronomy, Cal State Northridge
> Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 13:14:35 -0800
> Reply-To: fedora-list at redhat.com
>
> On Thu, 2004-01-22 at 12:42, Christoph Wickert wrote:
>
> > Am Do, den 22.01.2004 schrieb Stephen Walton um 20:43:
> > > I realize
> > > that the Mozilla tools work at the individual user level and not at
the
> > > server level, which was the original question.
> >
> > Spamassain does too: spamassassin = user app.
>
> Thanks for your help, and I know there are always lots of ways to do a
> task in Linux, one of its strengths.  But my posting was unclear.  Here,
> all of us read our e-mail while connected to the campus IMAP server, and
> our mail remains on the server.  So none of the suggestions here work
> for us;  our e-mail never goes through procmail (or whatever) on our FC1
> systems.  I'd agree that the ideal situation would be for our campus IT
> folks to install a spam filter on the IMAP server itself, but they're
> understaffed and overworked, and this just isn't high on their list.
>
> This is another entire discussion, but IMHO downloading all your e-mail
> from an IMAP server to a local folder so procmail can handle it defeats
> 90% of the advantages of IMAP over POP, so don't bother suggesting it.
>
> -- 
> Stephen Walton <stephen.walton at csun.edu>
> Dept. of Physics & Astronomy, Cal State Northridge
>
>
>
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>
> Message: 6
> From: Dennis Gilmore <dennis at dgilmore.net>
> To: Jonathan Christison <jonbon_c at blueyonder.co.uk>,
fedora-list at redhat.com
> Subject: Re: samba file server slow
> Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 07:16:33 +1000
> Reply-To: fedora-list at redhat.com
>
>
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> Once upon a time Friday 23 January 2004 6:38 am, Jonathan Christison
wrote:
> > thanks for every one's help last time about this but its still slow... i
> > followed every ones advise and no change its still runs at 5mega bytes
> > per second over a 100 mega bits per second hub
> > then i realised when i was swaping files about on my fedora pc up stairs
> > on gkrellm the server is using rx not tx but yet there is a small amount
> > of tx packets flyin round my network.
> > do i need to configure my network card to use TX-100base some how ?
> > thanks for yore help again
> >
> > - Jonny
>
>
> Are you using a Hub or Switch?  if your using a hub as stated above you
wil=
> l=20
> not get the full performance as only one machine can send traffic on the
wi=
> re=20
> at a time so it has to stop and wait for ACK's  is your network running
ful=
> l=20
> duplex or half duplex?=20
>
> mii-tool
> eth0: negotiated 100baseTx-FD flow-control, link ok
>
> you should get something like the above if you run mii-tool as root that
is=
> =20
> 100Mbit per sec Full duplex  =20
>
> Dennis
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> Message: 7
> Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 14:29:35 -0700
> From: Robin Laing <Robin.Laing at drdc-rddc.gc.ca>
> Organization: Defence R&D Canada - Suffield
> To: fedora-list at redhat.com
> Subject: Re: samba file server slow
> Reply-To: fedora-list at redhat.com
>
> Jonathan Christison wrote:
> > thanks for every one's help last time about this but its still slow... i
> > followed every ones advise and no change its still runs at 5mega bytes
> > per second over a 100 mega bits per second hub
> > then i realised when i was swaping files about on my fedora pc up stairs
> > on gkrellm the server is using rx not tx but yet there is a small amount
> > of tx packets flyin round my network.
> > do i need to configure my network card to use TX-100base some how ?
> > thanks for yore help again
> >
> > - Jonny
> >
> >
>
> Don't confuse megabits and megabytes.  You state both in the above.
>
> Look at <http://www.aplawrence.com/Words/2003_09_19.html> for a simple
> description.
>
> 5megabytes * 8bits-per-byte = 40megabits.
>
>  From your description you are transfering about 40megabits of data
> per second which is close to the maximum of some harddrives.  I would
> say that your network card is working at 100Mbits per second.  You may
> be running into hardware limitations as well.
>
> There is overhead in working on a 100Base-TX network that will use up
> extra bandwidth so a 10meg file may actually use 12meg of bandwidth.
>
> I have used a program called Netpipe to test network speeds.  I havn't
> seen an rpm for it yet.
>
> -- 
> Robin Laing
>
>
>
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>
> Message: 8
> Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 15:29:41 -0600
> From: Chris Adams <cmadams at hiwaay.net>
> To: fedora-list at redhat.com
> Subject: Re: Acrobat Reader 8 not working in FC1
> Reply-To: fedora-list at redhat.com
>
> Once upon a time, John Rehmert <john.rehmert at speakeasy.net> said:
> > Thanks for expressing your opinion, but I was asking Ko Pu for reasons
> > for not using xpdf and/or gpdf.
>
> And I (and others) responded with compelling reasons.
>
> > If there aren't any compelling reasons,
> > then xpdf and/or gpdf are great alternatives.
>
> That is your opinion, which you are also free to express.
> -- 
> Chris Adams <cmadams at hiwaay.net>
> Systems and Network Administrator - HiWAAY Internet Services
> I don't speak for anybody but myself - that's enough trouble.
>
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 9
> Subject: Re: Apt built against rpm 4.3?
> From: Panu Matilainen <pmatilai at welho.com>
> To: fedora-list at redhat.com
> Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 23:34:09 +0200
> Reply-To: fedora-list at redhat.com
>
> On Thu, 2004-01-15 at 17:05, Mark Heslep wrote:
> > Can anybody point to an Apt built against the 4.3 rpm thats out in
> > development / rawhide now?  Most current Apt I can find demands a 4.2
> > rpm library.   Also I tried rebuilding apt from the srouce rpm on Dag's
> > site but it fails to build on fedora looking for '-lselinux'.
>
> In case you haven't already figured it out: you need to have
> libselinux-devel package installed to build apt on against the current
> development tree.
>
> - Panu -
>
>
>
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>
> Message: 10
> From: Telmo Silva <tsilva at zmail.pt>
> To: fedora-list at redhat.com
> Subject: Install Mozilla plugin
> Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 21:34:00 +0000
> Reply-To: fedora-list at redhat.com
>
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> Hi,
>
> I tried to install Macromedia Flash Mozilla plugin, but it keeps asking me
the
> installation directory of mozilla, and I can't seem to find it. Anyone
knows
> where is mozilla insttaled on Fedora Core?
>
> Thanks
> - -- 
> Telmo Silva
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> Message: 11
> Subject: RE: RWyse60 Terminal Interface
> From: David L Norris <dave at webaugur.com>
> To: fedora list <fedora-list at redhat.com>
> Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 16:29:51 -0500
> Reply-To: fedora-list at redhat.com
>
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> On Thu, 2004-01-22 at 10:24, Greg Ennis wrote:
> > Tiny Term does have a product with a Wyse60
> > interface for Linux systems but it does not allow 'on the fly'
programmin=
> g
> > of the special function keys, and has some other hard coded problems
that
> > can not be fixed by changing parameter files.
>
> Maybe PuTTY can do it?  It works on Windows and Linux.  It has a SCO
> mode under terminal options.
>
> PuTTY website:
>   http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
>
> Dag Wieers has a Fedora RPM available here:
>   http://dag.wieers.com/packages/putty/
>
> --=20
>  David Norris
>   http://www.webaugur.com/dave/
>   ICQ - 412039
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> Message: 12
> Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 13:40:11 -0800 (PST)
> From: Justin Churchey <sajchurchey at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: Install Mozilla plugin
> To: fedora-list at redhat.com
> Reply-To: fedora-list at redhat.com
>
> You should be able to install the plugin directly into
> the /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins folder this should be the
> libflashplayer.so file (or some other similar *.so
> file) when you unpackage the tarball.
>
> =====
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>
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> Message: 13
> Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 13:42:12 -0800
> From: Rick Stevens <rstevens at vitalstream.com>
> To: fedora-list at redhat.com
> Subject: Re: installing grub fails
> Reply-To: fedora-list at redhat.com
>
> Telmo Silva wrote:
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> > Hi,
> >
> > Don't know if it works has I've not tryed it. I think grub renames the
> > partitions, so hda in grub is labeled as hd0. So try with hd0 as the
> > parameter.
> >
> > Em Quinta 22 Janeiro 2004 18:37, o Diosnel Herrnsdorf escreveu:
> >
> >>On Thu, 2004-01-22 at 14:27, Linux4life wrote:
> >>
> >>>Hi,
> >>>running the command
> >>>
> >>>grub-install /dev/hda
> >>>
> >>>fails and prints an error message
> >>>
> >>>/dev/hda does not have any corresponding BIOS ...
> >>>
> >>>Does anyone know what is wrong?
> >>>Thanks,
> >>>Ivo
> >>
> >>Try /dev/hda1 (your hard disk has at least two partitions and you need
> >>to tell the program in which one you want to install it)
> >>
> >>Regards,
> >>
> >>Diosnel
> >
> >
> > - -- 
> > Telmo Silva
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>
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> Message: 14
> From: "STYMA, ROBERT E (ROBERT)" <stymar at lucent.com>
> To: fedora-list at redhat.com
> Subject: Re: upgrading to fedora core 2
> Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 15:42:45 -0600
> Reply-To: fedora-list at redhat.com
>
>
> >>Rodolfo J. Paiz wrote:
> >> At 09:03 1/22/2004, you wrote:
> >>
> >>> In practice, there are some [issues with upgrading from RHL to Fedora
> >>> via apt/yum]:
> >>>
> >>> http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/2004-January/msg02421.html
> >>
> >> The original question was about upgrading from FC1 to FC2 via apt/yum.
I
> >> think the original answer of "in theory, no problem" may or may not be
> >> right but is reasonable. The fact that X or Y problem existed upgrading
> >> from a previous (not even the latest) version of RHL is not relevant to
> >> that question, nor does it imply that the same problems will continue
to
> >> exist.
> >
> >Yes, that is true. And in fact I get the impression few people have had
> >trouble with "yum upgrade"s so far. But I merely report the fact some
> >people have pointed out that problems are theoretically possible.
> >
> >The article I quoted doesn't refer to problems with a previous upgrade,
> >it discusses the issues that *are* likely to arise in the future.
> >Specifically, if there is a major update of Python or glibc or anything
> >else that yum (or up2date or apt) depends upon that causes it to break
> >during the upgrade process, you're up the proverbial creek (at least
> >until you pop in the CD and fire up anaconda).
> >
> >It might not happen; it appears not to have happened for 8 -> 9 or
> >9 -> FC1. But it *could* happen in the future, and AFAIK the developers
> >haven't designed a system to specifically prevent it. (Please correct
> >me if I'm wrong!)
> >
> >-- 
> >       Matt
>
> This sort of problem can happen any time pieces of the tool doing the
updating
> might get updated.  A decision would have to be made by the person
maintaining
> yum (or up2date or apt) to link that program together statically.  This
way you
> would be either running the new copy or the old copy of the updater, but
never
> pieces of both.  On many UNIX flavors /sbin/sh is set up this way, so that
root
> can get in even if the system is pretty trashed.
>
>
>
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>
> Message: 15
> From: don <don at drussell.dnsalias.com>
> Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 13:47:42 -0800 (PST)
> Subject: Re: Install Mozilla plugin
> To: fedora-list at redhat.com
> Reply-To: fedora-list at redhat.com
>
> Telmo Silva said:
> > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> > Hash: SHA1
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I tried to install Macromedia Flash Mozilla plugin, but it keeps asking
me
> > the
> > installation directory of mozilla, and I can't seem to find it. Anyone
> > knows
> > where is mozilla insttaled on Fedora Core?
>
> Use the "whereis" command...
>     whereis mozilla
>
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 16
> Subject: Re: Install Mozilla plugin
> From: Christoph Wickert <christoph.wickert at web.de>
> To: fedora-list <fedora-list at redhat.com>
> Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 22:53:53 +0100
> Reply-To: fedora-list at redhat.com
>
> Am Do, den 22.01.2004 schrieb Telmo Silva um 22:34:
> > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> > Hash: SHA1
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I tried to install Macromedia Flash Mozilla plugin, but it keeps asking
me the
> > installation directory of mozilla, and I can't seem to find it. Anyone
knows
> > where is mozilla insttaled on Fedora Core?
>
> /usr/lib/mozilla, but why not use the FC1 rpm from
> http://macromedia.mplug.org/
>
> More info: http://fedora.artoo.net/faq/#Flash
>
> Christoph
>
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 17
> Subject: Re: RWyse60 Terminal Interface
> From: Leonard den Ottolander <leonard at den.ottolander.nl>
> To: Fedora List <fedora-list at redhat.com>
> Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 22:56:03 +0100
> Reply-To: fedora-list at redhat.com
>
> Hello Greg,
>
> You might want to join the ncurses mailing list (see
> http://www.gnu.org/directory/GNU/ncurses.html). Thomas Dickey is also
> the maintainer of terminfo, so I guess you can ask question relating to
> terminal issues on bug-ncurses at gnu.org as well.
>
> Bye,
> Leonard.
>
> -- 
> mount -t life -o ro /dev/dna /genetic/research
>
>
>
>
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>
> Message: 18
> Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 13:58:30 -0800
> From: Rick Stevens <rstevens at vitalstream.com>
> To: fedora-list at redhat.com
> Subject: Re: installing grub fails
> Reply-To: fedora-list at redhat.com
>
> Oops!  Hit "Send" too soon.  Please ignore my previous post.
>
> Telmo Silva wrote:
> > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> > Hash: SHA1
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > Don't know if it works has I've not tryed it. I think grub renames the
> > partitions, so hda in grub is labeled as hd0. So try with hd0 as the
> > parameter.
>
> Bottom post, guys, please!
>
> grub-install uses Linux device names (/dev/hda, etc.), NOT BIOS names
> (hd0,0).  grub uses BIOS names internally.
>
> > Em Quinta 22 Janeiro 2004 18:37, o Diosnel Herrnsdorf escreveu:
> >
> >>On Thu, 2004-01-22 at 14:27, Linux4life wrote:
> >>
> >>>Hi,
> >>>running the command
> >>>
> >>>grub-install /dev/hda
> >>>
> >>>fails and prints an error message
> >>>
> >>>/dev/hda does not have any corresponding BIOS ...
> >>>
> >>>Does anyone know what is wrong?
> >>>Thanks,
> >>>Ivo
> >>
> >>Try /dev/hda1 (your hard disk has at least two partitions and you need
> >>to tell the program in which one you want to install it)
>
> No, that will install it to the partition, not the MBR.
>
> The error message indicates that the BIOS doesn't know about the drive.
> This IS an IDE drive, isn't it?  We'd need to see your drive layout to
> better answer this.
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer     rstevens at vitalstream.com -
> - VitalStream, Inc.                       http://www.vitalstream.com -
> -                                                                    -
> -         Okay, who put a "stop payment" on my reality check?        -
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 19
> Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 17:00:13 -0500
> From: Mike Frisch <mfrisch at isurfer.ca>
> To: fedora-list at redhat.com
> Subject: Re: Install Mozilla plugin
> Reply-To: fedora-list at redhat.com
>
> On Thu, Jan 22, 2004 at 09:34:00PM +0000, Telmo Silva wrote:
> > I tried to install Macromedia Flash Mozilla plugin, but it keeps
> > asking me the installation directory of mozilla, and I can't seem to
> > find it. Anyone knows where is mozilla insttaled on Fedora Core?
>
> Whenever you run in the issue of not knowing where something is
> installed, just view the contents of the RPM:
>
> rpm -ql mozilla
>
> >From that you can see where mozilla resides when it's installed.
>
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 20
> Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 21:56:25 +0200
> From: Sergiu Giurgiu <gsergiu at rdslink.ro>
> To: fedora-list at redhat.com
> Subject: kernel 2.6.1+Nvidia twinview+fedora (of course) problem
> Reply-To: fedora-list at redhat.com
>
> Hi,
> I don't know if this is the most appropriate place to ask this question,
> since i believe is not related with fedora only, but with kernel 2.6.1
> and/or nvidia latest drivers, but i desperate need some help.
> since i've installed kernel 2.6.1 (i didn't try with 2.6.0 or the -testx
> series) whenever i try to enable tv-out (in clone mode usually), and
> startx the monitor is blank, and instead the images appear on TV only.
> Why is this happening. what can i do about it (i need my monitor so i
> can start the programs, mplayer to be exact, with the right options, and
> not to be forced to go to the TV, witch is 5 meters away, to see what
> i've typed). Does anybody knows about this problem??? What can i do
> about it (except booting with 2.4 kernel)?
>
> Here is the relevant part from my XF86config file:
> Section "Monitor"
> Identifier "Monitor0"
> VendorName "Monitor Vendor"
> ModelName "Monitor Model"
> HorizSync 30-85
> VertRefresh 48-120
> Option "dpms"
> EndSection
>
> Section "Device"
> # no known options
> Identifier "NVIDIA GeForce 4 (generic)"
> Driver "nvidia"
> VendorName "NVIDIA GeForce 4 (generic)"
> BoardName "NVIDIA GeForce 4 (generic)"
> Option "NoLogo" "on"
> Option "TwinView" "on"
> Option "SecondMonitorHorizSync" "30-50"
> Option "SecondMonitorVertRefresh" "60"
> Option "MetaModes" "1024x768,1024x768;800x600,800x600"
> #Option "MetaModes" "800x600,800x600"
> Option "TwinViewOrientation" "Clone"
> Option "ConnectedMonitor" "CRT,TV"
> Option "TVStandard" "PAL-B"
> Option "TVOutFormat" "COMPOSITE"
> BusID "PCI:1:0:0"
> Option "CursorShadow" "on"
> #Option "NvAGP" "1"
> EndSection
>
> Section "Screen"
> Identifier "Screen0"
> Device "NVIDIA GeForce 4 (generic)"
> Monitor "Monitor0"
> DefaultDepth 16
>
> Subsection "Display"
> Depth 16
> Modes "1280x1024" "1152x864" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
> EndSubsection
> EndSection
>
>
> Thank you very much for your time.
> Sergiu.
>
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 21
> From: "Ko Pu" <ko_pu at hotmail.com>
> To: fedora-list at redhat.com
> Subject: RE: Acrobat Reader 8 not working in FC1
> Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 14:08:10 -0800
> Reply-To: fedora-list at redhat.com
>
> Thanks so much for all your replies, I downloaded the 5.07 file from
> http://dag.wieers.com/packages/acroread/, installed it and it's working
> fine. Thanks again for all of your help.
>
> Thanks in advance for your comment/suggestion
>
> Ko Fei Pu
> mailto:ko_pu at nospamhotmail.com
>
>
>
>
> >From: Marius Andreiana <mandreiana at rdslink.ro>
> >Reply-To: fedora-list at redhat.com
> >To: fedora <fedora-list at redhat.com>
> >Subject: RE: Acrobat Reader 8 not working in FC1
> >Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 22:16:54 +0200
> >
> >On Thu, 2004-01-22 at 21:31, john.rehmert at speakeasy.net wrote:
> > > -->
> > > --> Has anybody succeded in making AR5.08 working under FC1? I
> > > --> downloaded the
> > > --> file from Adobe and installed several times, but it still
> > > --> won't work.
> >get a rpm whenever possible
> >google gives this
> >http://dag.wieers.com/packages/acroread/
> >you want the ones wih 'fc1' and 'i386' in filename
> >
> > > Is there a reason you're not using xpdf (X PDF Viewer) or gpdf (GNOME
> >PDF
> > > Viewer)?
> >adobe is simply much more comfortable to use. It has bookmarks, you can
> >read documents by pressing page-down and not miss anything (gnome pdf
> >moves an entire page, even if it doesn't fit into screen), printing
> >works as expected, rendering is faster.
> >
> >This is an example where 'simple' proprietary applications are better
> >than open source ones, which usually don't have some basic features
> >(copy-paste working properly, or Search in nautilus text view).
> >
> >A good example where OSS is better than proprietary at simple desktop
> >applications is gaim vs. yahoo messenger (which on linux sucks at
> >usability and features).
> >
> >Unfortunately criticism like this, coming from regular end-users, is
> >usually not well received by OSS developers (ignored or "do it
> >yourself")
> >
> >--
> >Marius Andreiana
> >Galuna - Solutii Linux in Romania
> >http://www.galuna.ro
> >
> >
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>
> Message: 22
> Subject: Re: Install Mozilla plugin
> From: WA9ALS - John <ham_reflectors at wa9als.com>
> To: fedora-list at redhat.com
> Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 17:24:24 -0500
> Reply-To: fedora-list at redhat.com
>
> On Thu, 2004-01-22 at 16:40, Justin Churchey wrote:
> > You should be able to install the plugin directly into
> > the /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins folder this should be the
> > libflashplayer.so file (or some other similar *.so
> > file) when you unpackage the tarball.
> >
> > =====
> >
> >
> > Justin Churchey
> >
> > sajchurchey at yahoo.com
> >
> >
> > Check out My Website: http://sajchurchey.htmlplanet.com
> > Join the Forums:  http://www.computertechnology2k.com
> >
> > __________________________________
> > Do you Yahoo!?
> > Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it!
> > http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ps/sb/
> >
>
> I'm having the same problem right now.  My working java plugin is in
> /usr/lib/mozilla-1.4.1/plugins, so I directed flash installer to put it
> there.  No errors, but when I check About Plugins, it's not there.
> (Following instructions at the Macromedia site.) - John
>
>
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 23
> Subject: RE: RWyse60 Terminal Interface
> From: Brian Fahrlander <Brian at fahrlander.net>
> To: Fedora List <fedora-list at redhat.com>
> Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 16:22:04 -0600
> Reply-To: fedora-list at redhat.com
>
>
> --=-lqbcLoNmz4YLQUHsYwH1
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>
> On Thu, 2004-01-22 at 15:29, David L Norris wrote:
>
> > Maybe PuTTY can do it?  It works on Windows and Linux.  It has a SCO
> > mode under terminal options.
> >=20
> > PuTTY website:
> >   http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
> >=20
> > Dag Wieers has a Fedora RPM available here:
> >   http://dag.wieers.com/packages/putty/
>
>     Wait....there's a linux version of putty?  That's a new one on me.=20
> Putty's good...it has SSH abilities...I can honestly say, though, that I
> never looked to see if it had simple telnet.
>
>     Good call, Dave!
>
> --=20
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Brian Fahrl=C3=A4nder                 Researcher, Conservative, and
Technom=
> ad
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>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 24
> Subject: Re: problem removing Mozilla 1.4 which came with FC1
> From: Jeff Allison <jeff.allison at allygray.2y.net>
> To: fedora-list at redhat.com
> Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 09:41:57 +1100
> Reply-To: fedora-list at redhat.com
>
> I had this problem removing mozilla on two machines on one I removed
> both mozilla and open-office and mozilla and install open office using
> the installer from their site and on the other I left mozilla installed
> and added it to the hold list in apt. I don't appear to be missing any
> functionality. (By the way firebird is my browser of choice.)
>
> Jeff
>
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 25
> Subject: Re: Install Mozilla plugin
> From: Christoph Wickert <christoph.wickert at web.de>
> To: fedora-list <fedora-list at redhat.com>
> Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 23:43:25 +0100
> Reply-To: fedora-list at redhat.com
>
> Am Do, den 22.01.2004 schrieb WA9ALS - John um 23:24:
>
> >
> > I'm having the same problem right now.  My working java plugin is in
> > /usr/lib/mozilla-1.4.1/plugins,
>
> 1. use /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins (not mozilla-<version>), this is where
> mozilla is looking for plugins.
>
> 2. Why not use the rpms???
> http://dag.wieers.com/packages/j2re/j2re-1.4.2-4.rhfc1.dag.i586.rpm
> and
>
http://macromedia.mplug.org/apt/fedora/1/RPMS.macromedia/flash-plugin-6.0.79-2.i386.rpm
>
> no more configuration necessary.
>
> Please read the FAQs, thats's what they are for...
> http://fedora.artoo.net/faq/#Java
> http://fedora.artoo.net/faq/#Flash
>
> And perhaps you should also search the archives of this list.
>
> Christoph
>
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 26
> Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 16:54:25 -0600 (CST)
> From: Stephan Schutter <rhl at farorbit.com>
> To: fedora-list at redhat.com
> Subject: Re: Replacement for XMMS?
> Reply-To: fedora-list at redhat.com
>
> go to freshrpms.net and install apt...
> apt-get update
> apt-get install synaptic
>
>
> then don't use up2date anymore...
>
> select the packages that you want there. There are a lot of additional
> sources that you can add as well..
>
>
>
> On Wed, 21 Jan 2004, Mike Klinke wrote:
>
> > On Wednesday 21 January 2004 21:17, Brian Hartman wrote:
> > > On Wed, 2004-01-21 at 22:11, Mike Klinke wrote:
> > >
> > > Admittedly, I didn't look at the package list, but when I tried to
> > > run the command, I received the message:
> > >
> > > "Due to patent licensing, and conflicts between such patent
> > > licenses and the licenses of application source code, MPEG-1/2
> > > audio layer 3 (MP3) support has been removed from this application
> > > by Red Hat, Inc.  We apologize for this inconvenience."
> > >
> >
> > Ah, you're looking for a different xmms RPM than the one provided.
> >
> > Stand by, I'm sure someone will pipe up and point out the solution as
> > I'm pretty sure I've seen this addressed in the past.  Have you
> > searched the archives?
> >
> > http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=fedora-list&r=1&w=2
> >
> >
> > Regards,  Mike Klinke
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 27
> Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 15:00:11 -0800 (PST)
> From: Keith <ac7xc-lnx at earthlink.net>
> To: fedora-list at redhat.com
> Subject: Re: Install Mozilla plugin
> Organization: http://kilowatt-radio.org NW OR Radio Page
> Reply-To: fedora-list at redhat.com
>
> On Thu, 22 Jan 2004, Telmo Silva wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I tried to install Macromedia Flash Mozilla plugin, but it keeps asking
me the
> > installation directory of mozilla, and I can't seem to find it. Anyone
knows
> > where is mozilla insttaled on Fedora Core?
> >
> > Thanks
>
> locate mozilla
>
>
> -- 
> Best Regards,  Keith
> NW Oregon Radio http://kilowatt-radio.org/
> http://linux.com http://freebsd.org http://apple.com
>
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 28
> Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 15:03:34 -0800 (PST)
> From: Keith <ac7xc-lnx at earthlink.net>
> To: fedora-list at redhat.com
> Subject: Re: Acrobat Reader 8 not working in FC1
> Organization: http://kilowatt-radio.org NW OR Radio Page
> Reply-To: fedora-list at redhat.com
>
> On Thu, 22 Jan 2004, Ko Pu wrote:
>
> > Has anybody succeded in making AR5.08 working under FC1? I downloaded
the
> > file from Adobe and installed several times, but it still won't work. I
even
> > tried to just open the application in both locations
> > (/usr/local/Acrobat5/Reader/intellinux/bin/acroread and
> > /usr/local/Acrobat5/bin/acroread) but nothing happened, is there
anything
> > that I need to do? I think if this part is not working, the plugin won't
> > work either.
> >
> > Thanks in advance for your comment/suggestion
>
>
>  Have you tried running the program from a gnome-terminal, xterm or KDE
> Konsole command line? Any errors will be listed if the start up fails.
>  One thing to check is the permissions and ownership for the files.
>
>
> -- 
> Best Regards,  Keith
> NW Oregon Radio http://kilowatt-radio.org/
> http://linux.com http://freebsd.org http://apple.com
>
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 29
> Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 15:06:35 -0800 (PST)
> From: Keith <ac7xc-lnx at earthlink.net>
> To: RedHat FEDORA Group <fedora-list at redhat.com>
> Subject: Re: Install Mozilla plugin
> Organization: http://kilowatt-radio.org NW OR Radio Page
> Reply-To: fedora-list at redhat.com
>
> On Thu, 22 Jan 2004, Keith wrote:
>
> > On Thu, 22 Jan 2004, Telmo Silva wrote:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I tried to install Macromedia Flash Mozilla plugin, but it keeps
asking me the
> > > installation directory of mozilla, and I can't seem to find it. Anyone
knows
> > > where is mozilla insttaled on Fedora Core?
> > >
> > > Thanks
> >
> > locate mozilla
> >
>
>  Sorry, you should type 'locate mozilla' on the command line.
>
>
> -- 
> Best Regards,  Keith
> NW Oregon Radio http://kilowatt-radio.org/
> http://linux.com http://freebsd.org http://apple.com
>
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 30
> Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 15:12:51 -0800
> From: Sean Kennedy <skennedy at tpno.org>
> To: fedora-list at redhat.com
> Subject: Default Moz install: Pretty, custom built: jaggy
> Reply-To: fedora-list at redhat.com
>
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> Ok, this is probably a small thing, but damn it, I want it pretty!
>
> So the default install of FC1 has a 1.4 moz install that has non-jaggy
> fonts.  I want the latest version of Moz, so I download and install it,
> but the fonts here are very jaggy.
>
> Can someone tell me how to make the new version look like the old
> version, and why this is like it is?
>
> Thank you
>
> Sean
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>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 31
> From: Fred Nastos <nastos at physics.utoronto.ca>
> To: fedora-list at redhat.com
> Subject: performance tuning -- application start-up time
> Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 18:17:13 -0500
> Reply-To: fedora-list at redhat.com
>
> Hi,
>
> I just installed Fedora Core 1 on a system with an
> Athlon XP 2500+ on an ASUS A7V600 motherboard, with
> 512 MB PC3200 400MHz RAM, and Maxtor 120G
> A133/7200RPM hard disk.
>
> I followed some hints on here:
> http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/2003-December/msg02148.html
> to get the ethernet recognized and network working.
>
> The only problem I have now is that it takes a noticeably long
> time for applications to start up, and I'm not talking about
> apps like OpenOffice.  For example, it takes about 8 seconds
> for konsole or terminal to startup.  Once the apps start-up they
> are as responsive as I'd expect.
>
> I searched the list, and I've seen a lot of comments that getting
> RPMs built on Athlons doesn't getting the execution speed much,
> but could they help the start-up times?  I'd just go ahead and check
> myself, but I can't seem to find anywhere where I can find such
> rpms for Fedora.  Must I roll my own?
>
> On another Athlon XP 2500, but on an ASUS A7V8X motherboard
> and again with 512 MB RAM (PC2700 333 MHz) and a Maxtor
> (80G A133/7200RPM), the application start-up times are very
> impressive.  Since the only major difference between the systems
> is the motherboard (the video cards are the same also), could the
> motherboard possibly be the reason?
>
> Also, on two intels, and old athlon 1200, again Fedora shines.
>
> Thanks for any input.
>
>
>
>
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