Re: FC3 -> FC4 upgrade leaves old packages

[akonstam trinity edu]

On Fri, Nov 11, 2005 at 06:06:56PM -0500, Tony Nelson wrote:
> At 6:18 AM -0600 11/11/05, akonstam trinity edu wrote:
> >On Thu, Nov 10, 2005 at 03:08:53PM -0800, Ed Swierk wrote:
> >> I just completed an upgrade from FC3 to FC4 using the FC4 CDs.
> >>
> >> What I'm left with can hardly be called an FC4 installation, since it
> >> left nearly 80 FC3 packages untouched, including kernel and glibc.
> >>
> >> My guess is that anaconda decided not to upgrade certain updated FC3
> >> packages whose FC4 counterparts had lower version numbers.
> >>
> >> Have others run into this problem? I would like to help my colleagues
> >> avoid the same mess when they upgrade.
> >>
> >> --Ed
> >>
> >Would you expect an upograding program to upgrade to packages with a
> >lowere version number?
> 
> When it is doing an OS install, yes.
> 
> >You can't expect any upgrading system to know
> >that to go to a hoigher version of the distribution lower versions of
> >packages need to be installed.
> 
> Sure, when it is installing an OS.  Anaconda's /job/ is to install an OS.
> It should note all the packages needing downgrading and ask the user what
> to do.  It should work to install an OS upgrade, or a downgrade, with equal
> facility, and not leave an inconsistent installation.  Anaconda has a list
> of all the rpms it expects to install, and that's what should end up
> installed.
Well of course it is matter of philosophy. I could see it going
either way. This is I reiterate not an install but an upgrade. I would
be amazed if one ran yum upgrade and have a lower version installed
because that was the one associated with FC4. I can see anaconda
designed as you want it to be but to me that would violate the basic
meaning of upgrade.
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