Cut, Copy, Paste Nightmare

[jdow]

From: "Laurence Orchard" <laurence at orchards.org.uk>
> On Thu, 2006-06-01 at 02:18 -0700, jdow wrote:
>> From: "Laurence Orchard" <laurence at orchards.org.uk>
>> 
>> > On Thu, 2006-06-01 at 16:21 +0930, Tim wrote:
>> >> On Thu, 2006-06-01 at 14:00 +1000, Steffen Kluge wrote:
>> >> > Just do it the ^C/^V way then. Works just like in Windows. It is
>> >> > amazing you parade your lack of skill and/or knowledge and try to palm
>> >> > it off as some sort of Linux shortcomings.
>> >> 
>> >> Nice try with the insults, jackass, but CTRL + C or V doesn't work in
>> >> *all* applications, neither *do* all applications have right-click copy
>> >> and paste options, and neither does highlight and middle-click pasting
>> >> work in *all* applications.  You *have* to do combinations, some of
>> >> which have really annoying effects.
>> >> 
>> >> -- 
>> >> (Currently running FC4, occasionally trying FC5.)
>> >> 
>> >> Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored.
>> >> I read messages from the public lists.
>> >> 
>> > Hi All
>> > 
>> > Through out this thread I have not read any SPECIFICS,
>> > which applications don't work?
>> > which window manager are you using?
>> > which application won't let you switch windows?
>> > 
>> > It seems to me that there is a lot of calling of the "system" without
>> > the detail to back it up, is it the "system" or a few buggy/misbehaving
>> > applications?
>> > 
>> > If the applications don't work the way you think they should, have you:-
>> > a) checked that you are allowed to do what you want, some applications
>> > won't let you copy data for security reasons, putting data in pictures
>> > on web pages for instance.
>> > b) reported the bug/feature to the application developers/supporters.
>> > c) checked your configuration to make sure you don't have something that
>> > is inhibiting the action. 
>> > d) checked that something you have done has stopped it working. One of
>> > my programs has to use CTRL + C to close files cos thats what the user
>> > wanted. Another user had used CTRL + v to trigger their own macro (in
>> > Excel!).
>> > e) have you documented the precis actions that work/don't work so we can
>> > look at the problem
>> > 
>> > Thank you for your time
>> 
>> 1) When these problems bite I do NOT have time to debug them, create a
>>    fix, or even send a message to bugfart that there is a problem. I have
>>    my OWN problem to fix.
> 
> Can I ask what you do when Windows crashes
> or one of Microsoft's applications doesn't work the way you think it
> should?

Windows crashes? Could fool me. Do you still run that pseudo-windows
called SE?

>> 2) The problem with the program and X-Windows should not exist in the
>>    first place.
>> 
> 
> I agree that problems shouldn't exist, but as far as I know only Buddha
> has reached Nirvana.
> 
> I think you will find more problems elsewhere, with fewer people willing
> to listen, do something about it or suggest an alternative.
> 
> 
>> > Laurence
>> > 
>> > p.s. and we are not kids, so PLEASE lets not get into name calling and
>> > play nice!
>> 
>> 3) This is a Fedora Core mailinglist. What's this play nice and no name
>>    calling nonsense? (Of course, for an average "ix-ish" mailing list
>>    this one is modestly polite.)
> 
> End of the day, no-one is saying you have to use Fedora, if you prefer
> other offerings, go use them, stop whining, be constructive. 

That was humor, although I expect the humor impaired not to notice.

{^_-}   (I will note that the old Amigas had nicer cut and paste and
        clipboard behavior than I find in X applications.)