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jdow
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Wed Jun 28 03:05:41 UTC 2006
From: "Ed Greshko" <Ed.Greshko at greshko.com>
> jdow wrote:
>> From: "A simple test" <tmz at pobox.com>
>>> jdow wrote:
>>>> That seems to be the ticket. Usually a Reply-To: address would be
>>>> used when you want a reply sent to a different address than the
>>>> "To:" line. For some people that's a handy tool. For this list it
>>>> seems to get in the way.
>>>
>>> That depends on your goals. Knowing the list behaves this way,
>>> someone who wants to be Cc'd on their posts will have a greater
>>> likelihood of that happening when most people just hit reply.
>>>
>>> (I'm not that sort of someone, one copy is just fine for me. :)
>>>
>>>> I was thinking in terms of a misconfiguration at Aaron's site.
>>>
>>> Ahh, I see.
>>>
>>>> It MAY be that his MUA is too smart for it's own good. I use <choke
>>>> puke>Outlook Express</choke> typically. It doesn't toss on the
>>>> Reply-To:.
>>>
>>> Both Evolution and OE and most other mailers will add the reply-to if
>>> you specify it in the account configuration, none that I've toyed with
>>> add it automatically. But I'm sure there are at least a few that will
>>> do something silly like this to their users.
>>>
>>>> It also does not reduce a dual "Reply-To:" down to one.
>>>
>>> That's a good thing. It shouldn't. I can't point at the proper
>>> RFC's, but I know that in some of the posts and debates about the
>>> default for this setting that I've read on the mailman-users list over
>>> the years it's been mentioned.
>>>
>>>> Regardless something screwy's going on.
>>>
>>> Really? I think all is well here. The list is merely adding its own
>>> address to the Reply-To, which is a decent compromise between not
>>> touching the reply-to and overwriting it completely. And it seems
>>> many of the mail clients in use here will honor that header and send
>>> mail to all the addresses in the reply-to.
>>
>> I'm feeling slow today. I can't see how the way the headers are applied
>> Aaron would find sending emails with a "reply" to you would cause a
>> problem. A simple reply should end up with the email going to the list,
>> pretty much as it should.
>
> It is due to the header being written by mailman as:
>
> Reply-To: akonstam at sbcglobal.net,
> For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list at redhat.com>
>
> It is a result of mailman's configuration having:
>
> first_strip_reply_to being set to "no"
Ed, we're WAY past that stage if you've been reading.
> Shall we send you some coffee today?
No. Shall we send you some reading glasses? {^_-} For the effect to
happen it appears that the following, which you quoted, must happen.
>> Now, email back to Aaron from you might include two messages, the
>> direct one and the one to the list. His mailer might filter out the
>> second receipt of the same message, which would usually be the one
>> from the list. So he'd find himself replying to you directly rather
>> than to the list after you'd replied to him. But that's not quite
>> the scenario Aaron seemed to indicate. If it is we have it solved.
>> If my curiosity pushes me to probe further to find out why. It's a
>> silly small puzzle. But I'm crazy that way.
> Given the capacity to be stupid, people will be.
<cough> Automation works in strange ways, doesn't it?
{^_-}
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