network profiles - do they work for you? they are broken for me!

Matthew Saltzman mjs at clemson.edu
Mon May 28 17:40:11 UTC 2007


On Mon, 28 May 2007, Valent Turkovic wrote:

> On 5/28/07, Matthew Saltzman <mjs at clemson.edu> wrote:
>> On Mon, 28 May 2007, Valent Turkovic wrote:
>> >
>> > Ok... as I see it this problem is not new. Is anybody doing some
>> > active work to make system-config-network better? Or is it abandoned
>> > and some new tool is on the rise?
>> 
>> I doubt it's abandoned, so check for your bug in Bugzilla, and if it's not
>> there, file it.
>
> I found it and filed a "me too" :)
>
>> But for many purposes where profiles would work, NetworkManager works
>> better.  Have you tried it?  Does it not work for you for some reason?
>
> I tested NetworkManager, as you can see in this video:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yd0HaQE1YcQ
>
> and NetworkManager under fedora doesn't have any options for
> configuring "profiles" with static IP addresses - one feature I found
> Ubuntu NetworkManager has, as you can see on this video:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0siB9xzEO8
>
>> Note that NetworkManager is *not* the same as the Network Monitor applet
>> your videos showed in your reply to my earlier question.
>
> I'm aware of that, any if you saw my previous two videos I have you
> links for you can see it also... maybe the naming of my previous video
> is a bit misleading...

Actually, I may have been misled by the fact that that first one starts 
out with Network Monitor and the fact that you're using NM 0.6.5, which 
looks different from the 0.6.4 that's still in FC6.

>
>> # service NetworkManager start
>> 
>> In GNOME, you should see a new icon in your notification area.  Click it
>> and see if you find some helpful actions.  There's a brief description in
>> /usr/share/doc/NetworkManager-0.6.4/README.
>
> I read:
> /usr/share/doc/NetworkManager-0.6.5/README
>
> and it says that NetworkManager is only for DHCP networks :(
> That is not what I use most of the time... I usually use fixed IP addresses.

You might want to track NM development on the network-manager list at 
gnome.org.  Static address capabilites are in the works.

>From the (somewhat dated) NM FAQ 
(http://live.gnome.org/DarrenAlbers/NetworkManagerFAQ):

 	How do I setup a static IP address with NetworkManager?

 	NetworkManager has limited support for static IP addressing.
 	Configuration of static IPs is distribution specific and should
 	use that distribution's normal network configuration methods.

 	For example, on Fedora Core, using the system-config-network tool
 	or editing /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth1 to set a
 	static IP up for the device 'eth1' would result in NetworkManager
 	using that static IP configuration whenever you connect to an
 	access point using eth1.  Obviously, since static IP configuration
 	is always a manual task, NetworkManager is not able to automate
 	the process in any way.

 	Better support of static IP addresses is planned and in-progress
 	for NetworkManager 0.7.

So it looks like it's currently designed to work in conjunction with 
network profiles 8^(.  But better support is coming Real Soon Now.

>
>> If you want it to start at boot,
>> 
>> # chkconfig NetworkManager on
>
> I'm not that of a newbie :) I'm in linux for a while...

Apologies.

>
>
>

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 		Matthew Saltzman

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